[ExI] How the brain builds sentences, neuron by neuron

[Brent Allsop]

On Mon, Jun 22, 2026 at 1:14 PM John Clark <johnkclark at gmail.com> wrote:

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> On Mon, Jun 22, 2026 at 11:47 AM Brent Allsop <brent.allsop at gmail.com>
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> *> The system must detect physical qualities when it is on, and not when
>> it is off.  Objectively observing all that will tell you when it is on and
>> when it is off,*
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> *Yes.*
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>> *> but it will not tell you what it is like.*
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> *That is also true, but why is it true? The only answer I can think of is
> that a color qualia must not be "like" anything except itself. An
> explanation is supposed to make something that is complicated simpler, and
> you just can't get any simpler than a brute fact. After all, what is the
> alternative? If you discovered that a color qualia is "like" X then you'd
> want to know what X was "like", and if X was "like" Y then....*
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Yes, exactly.
It is a brute objectively and subjecdtively observable fact that glutamate
behaves the way it does, in a synapse, because of it's redness quality.
(Note: glutamate behavior is just a temporary, easily falsifiable,
standin.  But there must be something in the brain for which a fact like
this will be true)






> *PS: why did you decide to take this off list? *
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Oops, my mistake.  Thanks for pointing this out, and I'm putting back on
the lists.



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> * John K Clark*
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>> On Mon, Jun 22, 2026 at 5:24 AM John Clark <johnkclark at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>> On Sun, Jun 21, 2026 at 5:42 PM Brent Allsop via extropy-chat <
>>> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
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>>> *> AI does binding/computing with brute force discrete logic gates,
>>>> which is obviously a far less efficient way than whatever we are doing with
>>>> bound phenomenal qualities.*
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>>> *Unless you want to invoke magic, and I don't think you want to do that,
>>> then whatever we are doing must be logical; and in fact for years you seem
>>> to be demanding a logical explanation for the existence of qualia. And a
>>> good explanation means making something that is very complex and hard to
>>> understand less complex and easier to understand. And you can't get any
>>> simpler than turning on to off, or off to on. *
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>>> *John K Clark*
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