[ExI] Claude for president?

[Adrian Tymes]

That verification doesn't work.

Claude can very easily give different advice in different sessions -
even two sessions from the same person, using identical prompts.

If I were President and made a decision, then you asked Claude about
it, the fact that Claude advised you differently would not prove that
I did not use Claude for my decision.

On Sun, Mar 15, 2026 at 9:51 AM Jason Resch via extropy-chat
<extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>
> We don't need to elect Claude. We just would need to elect someone who uses Claude to help them make their decisions.
>
> Already I can envision tma large numbers of CEOs out there who not only use AI but their advisors of each department they oversee all use AI tools as well to make better informed, more widely considered decisions. In this way AI will creep into governance and decision making at all layers throughout society.
>
> Moreover, since the same AI tools are available to everyone, the people can verify if the leaders are indeed following the advice of Claude, say, in deciding whether or not a bill should be signed into law, or whether or not a law reviewed by SCOTUS is judged by Claude to be constitutional, etc.
>
> You could even model Congress, where you would ask Claude to judge whether a law is more beneficial or more harmful to the people of a particular state, and see how that state's representatives and senators vote.
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> The result would be an AItocracy even if no AI models officially hold office.
>
> When AI proves to be a better decision maker than any human, what company board will allow a CEO to not follow the advice of AI?
>
> Jason
>
> On Sat, Mar 14, 2026, 12:58 PM Adrian Tymes via extropy-chat <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 14, 2026 at 9:28 AM John Clark via extropy-chat
>> <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>> > On Fri, Mar 13, 2026 at 6:55 PM Keith Henson <hkeithhenson at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > Perhaps instead we should push for a constitutional amendment to declare AIs persons who can become president.
>> >
>> > That would indeed require a constitutional amendment, Claude was born in the USA but he is less than 35 years old.
>>
>> And are we talking about the general framework?  Arguably, specific
>> versions of Claude would be more analogous to a specific individual
>> (each version being something akin to a parent or older sibling of the
>> next), and those are rarely in significant use for more than a few
>> years (at the extreme).
>>
>> One could try to make an argument that "Claude" includes R&D
>> stretching back many years, before the name Claude was formally in
>> use, but that seems unlikely to pass court review (all other aspects
>> of court review aside).
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