[ExI] Claude for president?

[Jason Resch]

On Sun, Mar 15, 2026, 10:05 AM Adrian Tymes via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> That verification doesn't work.
>

Not generally, but it can be made to work. For example, by locking down the
version used, and having the "heat" setting use a pseudorandom RNG that is
predetermined or seeded on the input prompt.

Ideally the model used would be open source and trained using a public
protocol that anyone could replicate and verify. People could download the
model and verify the transcripts the leader published on their own
computers running locally.

Jason



> Claude can very easily give different advice in different sessions -
> even two sessions from the same person, using identical prompts.
>
> If I were President and made a decision, then you asked Claude about
> it, the fact that Claude advised you differently would not prove that
> I did not use Claude for my decision.
>
> On Sun, Mar 15, 2026 at 9:51 AM Jason Resch via extropy-chat
> <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
> >
> > We don't need to elect Claude. We just would need to elect someone who
> uses Claude to help them make their decisions.
> >
> > Already I can envision tma large numbers of CEOs out there who not only
> use AI but their advisors of each department they oversee all use AI tools
> as well to make better informed, more widely considered decisions. In this
> way AI will creep into governance and decision making at all layers
> throughout society.
> >
> > Moreover, since the same AI tools are available to everyone, the people
> can verify if the leaders are indeed following the advice of Claude, say,
> in deciding whether or not a bill should be signed into law, or whether or
> not a law reviewed by SCOTUS is judged by Claude to be constitutional, etc.
> >
> > You could even model Congress, where you would ask Claude to judge
> whether a law is more beneficial or more harmful to the people of a
> particular state, and see how that state's representatives and senators
> vote.
> >
> > The result would be an AItocracy even if no AI models officially hold
> office.
> >
> > When AI proves to be a better decision maker than any human, what
> company board will allow a CEO to not follow the advice of AI?
> >
> > Jason
> >
> > On Sat, Mar 14, 2026, 12:58 PM Adrian Tymes via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> On Sat, Mar 14, 2026 at 9:28 AM John Clark via extropy-chat
> >> <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
> >> > On Fri, Mar 13, 2026 at 6:55 PM Keith Henson <hkeithhenson at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> >> > Perhaps instead we should push for a constitutional amendment to
> declare AIs persons who can become president.
> >> >
> >> > That would indeed require a constitutional amendment, Claude was born
> in the USA but he is less than 35 years old.
> >>
> >> And are we talking about the general framework?  Arguably, specific
> >> versions of Claude would be more analogous to a specific individual
> >> (each version being something akin to a parent or older sibling of the
> >> next), and those are rarely in significant use for more than a few
> >> years (at the extreme).
> >>
> >> One could try to make an argument that "Claude" includes R&D
> >> stretching back many years, before the name Claude was formally in
> >> use, but that seems unlikely to pass court review (all other aspects
> >> of court review aside).
> >>
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