[ExI] Uploads are self

[John Clark]

On Fri, Mar 20, 2026 at 7:55 AM Ben Zaiboc via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

* > Take the 'Game of Life' example. When run, the game produces constantly
> changing patterns, but it isn't necessary to capture these changes in order
> to transfer the game to a different computer. You just need the code and a
> specific starting point. That's all static information. It's the same with
> uploading.*


*Yes and the game of life is Turing Complete, and so is the human mind as
far as anybody can tell. *


> > https://www.brainpreservation.org/content-2/killed-bad-philosophy/
>> >
>> > It is a big issue for a lot of people.
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> * > In fact, this bad philosophy affects even the cryonics community.
> Alcor, for instance, is opposed to using chemical preservation even though
> it likely results is less information loss.*


*Yeah, I am a fully paid up Alcor member and it pisses me off that ALCOR
doesn't even offer chemical preservation as an option, I've never heard a
coherent reason  why they don't, other than doing so might be bad for
public relations.  And I agree with you 100% that opposition to chemical
preservation comes from very bad philosophy!*


*>  I never understood why Alcor don't make this an option, so people can
> decide themselves. Having Aldehyde-stabilised cryonic preservation as an
> option doesn't prevent people deciding to take standard cryopreservation.*
>

*Exactly! I'm glad to see I'm not the only one who has this view.  *


* > Atoms are irrelevant, except as embodiment of information. Information
> patterns are what's important.*


*Right, atoms are generic, they don't have my name scratched on them, good
thing too because the atoms in my brain literally came from last year's
mashed potatoes. *

*John K Clark *


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