[ExI] They're Made out of Meat

John Clark johnkclark at gmail.com
Mon May 25 10:39:19 UTC 2026


On Sun, May 24, 2026 at 10:52 AM Jason Resch via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

*>But can you envision any self-emerging intelligence that doesn't go
> through a biochemical stage in this universe?*


*No not in this universe, but in another one with radically different laws
of physics maybe. I have never been impressed with the fine-tuning argument
because the thing we're really interested in is consciousness, not life,
biological or electronic. And if Charles Darwin was right then
consciousness must be an inevitable byproduct of intelligent behavior, and
intelligence requires data processing. There could be universes where the
fundamental constants of nature and laws of physics are nothing at all like
the ones we have (except for the second law of thermodynamics because it is
based on logic not physics) universes that are nevertheless capable of
producing stable structures that we can't imagine but can process data, and
thus produce consciousness.  *

* John K Clark*
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