[ExI] Trump suggests not letting Iran 'take out' Los Angeles and San Diego

[spike at rainier66.com]

...> On Behalf Of Adrian Tymes via extropy-chat
Subject: Re: [ExI] Trump suggests not letting Iran 'take out' Los Angeles and San Diego

On Wed, Oct 14, 2026 at 9:08 AM <spike at rainier66.com> wrote:
>>... Big mistakes were made.  Example: why were those who had already caught and survived covid compelled to get the vaccine?  They don’t do that for measles.  If one catches a virus, one has natural immunity.  So why take a vaccine which never had clinical trials if you already had the disease?

>...Because saying "the disease" ignores that there were multiple forms.
Even if they'd caught and had antibodies against the original form, those did not provide immunity from the mutated form....

Agree.  Covid was mutating faster than new vaccines could be developed.  It evolved right around our best efforts.  The regular flu does that too, which is why the vaccines sometimes work, sometimes don't.

We weren't told that at the time however.  It was being treated as a new miracle technology.  I agree it helped, for older people.  But we already knew kids were not impacted by covid, or not severely.

>>... What about the young, who caught it and the symptoms were mild?

>...They were infection risks to others - including the not-young...

Agree.  The mitigation strategy woulda been have the young give the old some space.

>...  I recall there being "superspreader" incidents, where groups of young people - convinced that they were healthy - gathered in spite of the warnings...

Ja.  They tried to make rules to apply to everyone.

>... with the predicted consequences that a lot more people caught a form of Covid-19 than would otherwise have...

During that period, I stayed far from young people.  We continued tutoring over Zoom during that time.

> By the time the vaccine was ready, we already knew that for some reason, when teenagers and younger caught covid, it didn’t do much to them.  We don’t know why.

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> For teens it introduced as much risk as it retired, possibly more.

Now that is disinformation.  It is, specifically, a proven lie.

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With a sample of 2600 at the local high school, we had no covid fatalities or serious impacts, even though it made the rounds before the vaccine was ready.  Plenty of students reported feeling lousy after the mRNA vaccine.  I agree it didn't kill anyone there.  But plenty of the students had been exposed before the shutdown and after.  For most students, the shutdown was a yearlong vacation.  They got together with friends.  Life went on.  

We knew the vaccine causes myocarditis.  For most people myocarditis is not a big deal.  But if one is playing football with it, it introduces risks that do not apply to us. 

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9538893/

My position on this isn't extreme.  It is moderate, and agrees with the medical community as it is now.  The medical community six years ago was much more positive on mRNA therapy for covid.

spike