[ExI] Trump suggests not letting Iran 'take out' Los Angeles and San Diego
Adrian Tymes
atymes at gmail.com
Wed Oct 14 13:27:25 UTC 2026
On Wed, Oct 14, 2026 at 9:08 AM <spike at rainier66.com> wrote:
> Big mistakes were made. Example: why were those who had already caught and survived covid compelled to get the vaccine? They don’t do that for measles. If one catches a virus, one has natural immunity. So why take a vaccine which never had clinical trials if you already had the disease?
Because saying "the disease" ignores that there were multiple forms.
Even if they'd caught and had antibodies against the original form,
those did not provide immunity from the mutated form.
> What about the young, who caught it and the symptoms were mild?
They were infection risks to others - including the not-young, as well
as other young who it hit more severely. Being vaccinated greatly
lowered the chances of infecting others even if you did catch it. I
recall there being "superspreader" incidents, where groups of young
people - convinced that they were healthy - gathered in spite of the
warnings, with the predicted consequences that a lot more people
caught a form of Covid-19 than would otherwise have.
> By the time the vaccine was ready, we already knew that for some reason, when teenagers and younger caught covid, it didn’t do much to them. We don’t know why.
Bullshit. We knew why: teens and younger are more resistant to this
sort of disease in general.
Which is not to say that there were no teens and younger who suffered
greatly from it. Just, the percentage of those who caught it who had
severe symptoms was lower. In most cases the effects were mild, but
there were teens and younger who died from it. See
https://data.cdc.gov/widgets/nr4s-juj3?mobile_redirect=true among
other data sources - and that's what Trump's administration is stil
lsaying today.
> It was lethal for old people. So… have the old take the vaccine, old being defined as over about 25.
>
> Why did we go to such absurd extremes with this one? The medical community wanted to treat the mRNA vaccine as a miracle. It wasn’t. It was good, for the older half.
To be fair: teens generally don't set laws and policy. Nearly
everyone of voting age - let alone, anyone who was serving in
government - was among the portion of the population over 25. (Which
is closer to "the older three-quarters": one study I found says that
the US population under 25 is about 104 million, vs. the US population
25 and older is about 270 million.)
> For teens it introduced as much risk as it retired, possibly more.
Now that is disinformation. It is, specifically, a proven lie.
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