[ExI] A Digital Fly Brain Has Taken Over the Internet

[John Clark]

On Wed, Sep 16, 2026 at 12:57 PM Brent Allsop via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:


*>  as all biological behavior is simulatable / mappable.*


*We are able to simulate behavior because we can see behavior, but we can't
see consciousness except in ourselves. Darwinian Evolution can also see
behavior but just like us it can't see consciousness. From that fact the
connection between intelligence and consciousness becomes obvious.  *

*> It's always statements like it's "only a digital map of the brain that
> is not capable of sentience or conscious perception in any tangible
> biological sense."*
>

*It's ALWAYS silly to say that if X is not yourself then X is capable or
not capable of sentience because there is no way to definitively prove or
disprove it. And it is certainly silly to say that if X is not Human then X
is not **capable of intelligence, as the recent huge increase in AI ability
has decisively proven. *

*>  a map (a word like 'red') sn't like anything*
>

*You've got it exactly backwards.** "Red" is in some ways like a low note
on a piano and "blue" is like a high note.  *

* > it lacks qualia like redness*
>

*But redness is not "like" anything except redness, that's why your efforts
to explain consciousness by finding what it is "like" are doomed to
failure.  *

*John K Clark*
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