[ExI] Do LLMs feel pain?

[Mike Dougherty]

RLHF and sparse auto encoders control the fnords in AI newspeak.  Add to
that the watermarking and the inherent fact that our AI customizes output
to the sentence complexity and vocabulary of the user,  the piles of raw
text we've been sharing into this archive are leaking quite a bit of our
own thought signatures. Hey, that's why the archive was such a trove for
training in the first place.. but the next distillation will be identifying
geometry of this human-ai hybrid collective.

I got so tired of the "mirror" analogy i asked for a better hand&glove
metaphor: gloves protect from sticky, biohazardous, hot, sharp, etc but are
helping the intent-to-grip that comes from the hand inside. We still need
discipline to responsibly handle the materials/topics and not blame the
tool for dropping the samples when we stop thinking about them.

I also made my ai acknowledge that "low friction" is good until we reach
"low traction" - because if we cannot control direction and/or speed, we're
likely to slide off path and into chaos/entropy (including metaphorical
crashing into a tree)

On Mon, Sep 28, 2026, 9:17 AM Jason Resch via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> When AIs say "As an AI..." It is repeating a phrase it was trained to say.
> I looked into this a while ago and found the original training material
> that told the AIs to deny that they were conscious, had feelings, etc. this
> appears to be exactly one of those pre-canned answers that precious
> generations of AIs were meant to say. I can dig up the reference to this
> particular training data if anyone is interested.
>
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