[ExI] Do LLMs feel pain?

Ben Zaiboc benzaiboc at proton.me
Tue Sep 29 15:42:06 UTC 2026


On 29/09/2026 15:18, Mike Dougherty wrote:
> RLHF and sparse auto encoders control the fnords in AI newspeak.  Add to that the watermarking and the inherent fact that our AI customizes output to the sentence complexity and vocabulary of the user,  the piles of raw text we've been sharing into this archive are leaking quite a bit of our own thought signatures. Hey, that's why the archive was such a trove for training in the first place.. but the next distillation will be identifying geometry of this human-ai hybrid collective.
>
> I got so tired of the "mirror" analogy i asked for a better hand&glove metaphor: gloves protect from sticky, biohazardous, hot, sharp, etc but are helping the intent-to-grip that comes from the hand inside. We still need discipline to responsibly handle the materials/topics and not blame the tool for dropping the samples when we stop thinking about them.
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> I also made my ai acknowledge that "low friction" is good until we reach "low traction" - because if we cannot control direction and/or speed, we're likely to slide off path and into chaos/entropy (including metaphorical crashing into a tree)


Good grief!

Mike, would you mind translating that into English?

I didn't understand a word.
-- 
Ben



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