[Paleopsych] Re: Blue and Red States on a Global basis

[Steve Hovland]

No, I recognize that atrocities are a part of warfare.

I also recognize that the campaign in Fallujah has been
a questionable military success and an absolute disaster
in PR terms.

No matter what we think of it, that piece of video, which
we did not see in its entirety (but the Arab world did), is a 
fabulous tool for fund raising and recruiting.

Steve Hovland
www.stevehovland.net


-----Original Message-----
From:	Lynn D. Johnson, Ph.D. [SMTP:ljohnson at solution-consulting.com]
Sent:	Friday, November 19, 2004 4:39 PM
To:	The new improved paleopsych list
Subject:	Re: [Paleopsych] Re: Blue and Red States on a Global basis

Gerry, you seem to be calling for thoughtful appraisal of gobal forces, 
and I appreciate it. Reason and analysis are needed. Steve's comment 
about the dead insurgent indicates a completely unrealistic view of 
warfare. The day before, an insurgent playing dead blew up a corpsman, 
and the marines have every reason to be suspicious. Such events happen 
all the time in war. Read Band of Brothers about the killing of German 
POWs.
    Scan www.opinionjournal.com for the "Good news from Iraq / 
Afghanistan" occasional pieces, and you see the other side.
Lynn

Geraldine Reinhardt wrote:

>
> Killing that insurgent is an isolated incident and does NOT constitute
> initiating killing fields.   One robin does not a springtime make yet 
> some
> sunworshippers grab any port in a storm.
>
> Gerry
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Hovland" 
> <shovland at mindspring.com>
> To: "'The new improved paleopsych list'" <paleopsych at paleopsych.org>
> Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 3:41 PM
> Subject: RE: [Paleopsych] Re: Blue and Red States on a Global basis
>
>
>> After the killing of a wounded, unarmed "insurgent" by
>> a US marine, I would expect that a poll of the Islamic
>> world would reveal an unprecedented level of undying
>> hatred for the US.
>>
>> No amount of explanation will ever overwrite that image.
>>
>> Steve Hovland
>> www.stevehovland.net
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Geraldine  Reinhardt [SMTP:waluk at earthlink.net]
>> Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 3:30 PM
>> To: The new improved paleopsych list
>> Subject: Re: [Paleopsych] Re: Blue and Red States on a Global basis
>>
>> I would have thought Bush's task after being elected
>> U.S. President
>> was to mold his allies into a common cause.  That seems
>> to be what
>> we are now observing as Bush romances Chirac.  Which of
>> the
>> European leaders still scorn Bush's lead?  And what
>> about Putin.....
>> I do think he's still part of the gameplan.
>> A new world-wide poll needs to be taken before the
>> Christmas
>> Holidays.  I think the Blue and Red States might offer
>> a different
>> profile.
>>
>> Gerry
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Werbos, Dr. Paul J." 
>> <paul.werbos at verizon.net>
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>> Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 3:13 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Paleopsych] Re: Blue and Red States on a
>> Global basis
>>
>>
>>
>>> About 2-3 weeks before the election, the Financial
>>> Times
>>> (not a left-wing rag!) reported world-wide polls in
>>> which 3 nations supported Bush, 2 were neutral,
>>> and all others pro-Kerry. The 3 were Poland,
>>> Phillipines and Nigeria. The 2 were Thai land
>>> (one of the ties was Thai! sorry...) and India. Views
>>> of Islam clearly were in the background.
>>> My Division at NSF was mainly Indian and Nigerian,
>>> and we had some jokes...
>>> and some very embarrassed Indians. One of whom told
>>> me there was a new poll just
>>> before the election, and then it was only Poland. I
>>> didn't ping him for sources.
>>>
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