[Paleopsych] GOP and dems

[Steve Hovland]

Steve Hovland
www.stevehovland.net


-----Original Message-----
From:	Lynn D. Johnson, Ph.D. [SMTP:ljohnson at solution-consulting.com]
Sent:	Tuesday, November 23, 2004 9:00 PM
To:	The new improved paleopsych list
Subject:	Re: [Paleopsych] GOP and dems

This is utter nonsense. What you are reading up on is the rantings of 
the far left, a source that has never been right about anything. Dems 
and Repubs can and should join together. Clinton's genius was working 
with republicans and co-opting some of their ideas. Centrists have a 
potential for doing good, and both sides can contribute, but not if 
there is nothing but hate speech and attribution of false motives.

Steve Hovland wrote:

>The Republicans are pursuing Social Darwinism.
>
>If you read up you will find that they are intent
>on destroying the social safety net that has been 
>built starting with the New Deal.
>
Welfare has been pared back and more people are working.
Social security will run out of money, and the ownership notion may be a 
way to salvage it.
HSAs have the potential to introduce responsible decision making into 
runaway medical costs.
There are some good ideas these days coming from the neocons, and 
moderate dems can work with those to create a more just society.The 
danger is that the liberals have become the reactionaries, saying don't 
change programs even though they don't work.

>
>The negligible difference between the Repubs
>and Dems probably indicates that they need to 
>merge and that a new populist party needs to 
>be formed.
>
>Steve Hovland
>www.stevehovland.net
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>-----Original Message-----
>From:	Geraldine  Reinhardt [SMTP:waluk at earthlink.net]
>Sent:	Tuesday, November 23, 2004 7:32 PM
>To:	The new improved paleopsych list
>Subject:	Re: [Paleopsych] GOP and dems
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>I've been following this thread and what occurs to me 
>is why cannot the Dems join with the GOP in pursuit of 
>social justice?
>That way, votes will not be split and everyone can 
>re-align and form a common whole.  The differences in 
>America between the two parties has become fairly 
>negligible.
>
>Regards,
>Gerry Reinhart-Waller
>
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Steve Hovland" <shovland at mindspring.com>
>To: "'The new improved paleopsych list'" 
><paleopsych at paleopsych.org>
>Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 10:27 AM
>Subject: RE: [Paleopsych] GOP and dems
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>>I think the Dems have to reassert certain
>>positions like social justice, not move to
>>the right.
>>
>>The real task is to capture just a few
>>percent of the swing voters.
>>
>>Steve Hovland
>>www.stevehovland.net
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Michael Christopher 
>>[SMTP:anonymous_animus at yahoo.com]
>>Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 10:18 AM
>>To: paleopsych at paleopsych.org
>>Subject: [Paleopsych] GOP and dems
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>>>>Insightful analysis, I enjoyed it. Sort of a
>>>>        
>>>>
>>Peter Principle, where we rise until we are
>>incompetent and then stay there.<<
>>
>>--Good insight. When Peter's boss likes Peter because
>>he never questions the system, Peter's incompetence 
>>is
>>even more likely to be accepted and spun as success.
>>
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>>>>Demos have to get away from the far-left litmus
>>>>        
>>>>
>>tests and run another centrist.<<
>>
>>--I'm not sure how much further to the right the Dems
>>can get before they become clones of the GOP. They
>>have backed down on gay marriage and gun control,
>>squeezed out the anti-war pacifists (Kerry is not
>>anti-war, he only questioned the BUSH'S war 
>>policy)...
>>What else can they back down on and still have
>>anything to offer that isn't offered by the GOP?
>>
>>I think it's pure spin that makes Kerry seem like a
>>"fringe liberal" (claims that he's the "most liberal"
>>senator have been debunked). Look at Kucinich, a REAL
>>liberal, he didn't do well at all. Dean didn't do 
>>well
>>either. Kerry was about as close to the center as
>>Democrats could get without becoming another
>>Republican party.
>>
>>Michael
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