[Paleopsych] From Eshel--A Glitch in Genetic-centrism

[Steve Hovland]

Think about image compression.

When I scan my slides I compress
8 million pixels into 500,000 bytes
of computer data.

Steve Hovland
www.stevehovland.net


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Subject:	[Paleopsych] From Eshel--A Glitch in Genetic-centrism



_Deinococcus radiodurans_ (http://deinococcus.allbio.org/)  is  able to
withstand the shattering and spattering force of radioactivity by  keeping 
many
apparently super-condensed backup copies of its genome, then  rebuilding 
whatever
genomic sequences that have been destroyed.

If a genome is the most economical summation of a species past possible, 
 how
can it be condensed into a backup copy?  Is there, as Joel Isaacson 
 suggest,
an Ur pattern, an implicit pattern from which a mashed gene can be
re-extracted?  Does the deciphering of an ancient pattern, an implicit 
 pattern, an
Ur-pattern, change as the context that extracts it changes?

Is the context of the still-unfazed genome, of the cytoplasm, of the cell
membrane, and of the signals coming from neighboring and distant  cells an
extractor capable of re-deducing the implicit healthy gene  when a mutated 
gene has
gone off-track?

Can evolution take a step back to retrace its earlier moves?

Is the radiodurans backup mechanism an after-the-fact condensation of the
genome--a symbolic representation of the genome?  Or is it a remnant of
something that preceded the genome?

Eshel, you speak of RNA as the possible backup mechanism.   RNA  is the
evolutionary precursor of DNA if the RNA-world hypothesis is true.   Do you 
think
that what was once derived from RNA can be derived again?

Is this pattern a sort of ontogeny recapitulating phylogeny?

And if the complexities and intricate forms and functions of the  present
have been pulled from the implications of the past, what even more 
 elaborate
futures will be extracted from the implications of today?   Howard

In a message dated 3/24/2005 10:07:42 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
eshel at physics.ucsd.edu writes:

Hi, Interestiing news, Eshel


I sent yesterday the message below to several  people in the Weizmann
following a paper in Nature that I think is a most  important discovery. 
personaly I
feel very good as it supports my long  objection to the current 
Neo-darwinian
paradigm. It also indicates that the  community in biology is now finally 
open
to revolutionary ideas related to  evolution. These discoveries might also 
ilustrate one example of organisms learning not through the DNA  sequence.



{Attached is a new paper that appear in Nature.  Being myself  against the
central paradigm I find the discoveries  potentially a mark of a new era. I 
might be dramatizing but may be not. I am  quite surprised and pleased that 
Nature
let them publish the paper and if you  note the dates within 6 weeks from
receiving it. Note also the possible  connection with microRNA .

It will be interesting if the media will realise  the revolutionary aspects 
or not.

If they do, it will probably lead to a flood of  serious and "vitalistic"
reactions.

In this regard I also attached a paper entitled  "New biology for a new
century"


I apologize if I am carried away but felt like  sharing with you my
excitement about these discoveries. There are many open  questions. The 
first one is if
it is a special mechanism for plants only or  shared by animals as well (it 
is known that smallRNA have different mechanisms  in plant).

Eshel


Eshel Ben-Jacob.
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Professor  of Physics
The Maguy-Glass  Professor
in Physics of Complex Systems
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