[extropy-chat] EU constitution collapses

[Dirk Bruere]

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Subject: Re: [extropy-chat] EU constitution collapses


> > On the contrary, all it prevents is a strong central government from
> > forming, forcing the EU fascists to accept a more federalist structure,
> > even a loose confederation. This is good news for the few states in
> > europe that have hardwired protections for natural rights like France
> > and Lithuania, and bad news for those wanting the power to challenge
> > the US merely for the sake of challenging for power...
> > Mike Lorrey
>
> Yes Mike, I understand. But I ask: what else is Europe (I mean the present
> theoretical "union" plus, virtually, the Russia) if not a direct, strong
attempt
> to challenge the US? Since Iraqi war here, in this Europe, we realized

A direct, strong attempt to be independent of the US?

> we do not have any military power, and any real political power. Did you
> notice that? For sure you did. And we are closer to those ... eastern
countries.

Exactly.

Dirk

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