[extropy-chat] Human Evolution

[Acy James Stapp]

http://www.n2.net/prey/bigfoot/creatures/article.htm
 
"Standard chromosomal studies fully supported Ledbetter's 
findings that Oliver had the diploid chromesome count expected 
for chimpanzees (i.e. 48 or 24 pairs). They also revealed that 
his chromosomes possessed banding patterns typical for the 
common chimpanzee but different from those of humans and 
bonobos, thereby excluding any possibility of Oliver being a 
hybrid."

"Moreover, when they sequenced a specific portion (312 bp 
region) of the D-loop region of Oliver's mitochondrial DNA 
they discovered that its sequence corresponded very closely 
indeed with that of the Central African subspecies of common 
chimpanzee; the closest correspondence of all was with a 
chimp specimen from Gabon in Central-West Africa. This 
all strongly suggests that Oliver also originated from this 
region and is simply a common chimp - an identity entirely 
consistent, therefore, with my own little-publicised opinion 
from 1993."
 
And from http://www.primate.wisc.edu/pin/oliver.html
 
"Since then, the cytogenetic analysis alluded to in that 
report has been completed, along with mtDNA sequencing 
and homology comparisons to African chimpanzees of 
known geographical origins, and just published in the AJPA 
(2). Our results indicate that Oliver is a member of the Pan 
troglodytes troglodytes subspecies from Central Africa, 
has 48 normal chimpanzee chromosomes, and was likely 
trapped in Gabon. Full details behind our conclusions can 
be found in our report (2)."

-----Original Message-----
From: bradbury [mailto:bradbury at blarg.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 4:00 PM
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Subject: Re: [extropy-chat] Human Evolution


On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 12:41pm The Avantguardian wrote:
I found an interesting trail of references to an alleged manpanzee named
Oliver. 

> http://www.science-frontiers.com/sf110/sf110p06.htm

Interestingly, the reference cited -- 
Holden, Constance; "'Mutant' Chimp Gets a Gene Check," Science, 274:727,
1996.
I cannot find in PubMed.

I cannot view the Science web site abstract.  But the
topic of the article seems reasonable -- *what* precisely
is the chromosome structure for "Oliver"?  If indeed he
is some form of a human-chimpanzee combination then it
would suggest that my previous comments regarding the
difficulty of producing offspring with different
chromosome numbers may be less than I would have
thought.

Robert

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