[extropy-chat] RE: freezing frogs & brain freeze helmet &Rip VanWinkle Pets

Tue Dec 14 04:09:42 UTC 2004

The way around that is to add something like a sleeping bag and simulate 
what happens when someone falls into near freezing water and thrashes 
around causing hypothermia before drowing.    I had a prospectus  a year 
back from a company that had developed a "self cooling" pop can which 
had an insert which once the can was opened would spontaneously remove 
heat from the contents. They had spent 7 million to date and wanted to 
raise money for marketing.

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Florida Firm Creates Self-Cooling Soda Can ~ No Cooler Needed 
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    Published: 05/05/2001 Author: Miami.com Staff
    Posted on 05/06/2001 18:18:23 PDT by GeekDejure
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BRADENTON, Fla. -- (AP) -- How about a cold beer on demand without 
lugging an ice chest or waiting in line? Simply twist the can and it 
chills.

A Florida company developed the technology and teamed with a leading 
global can maker to produce a can that can drop the temperature of its 
contents at least 30 degrees Fahrenheit in three minutes.

The ``I.C. Can'' resembles an aluminum can and works on vacuum heat pump 
technology, much like a refrigerator. The desiccant in the vacuum draws 
heat from the beverage through an evaporator into an insulated heat 
container attached at the bottom of the can.

There is a water and gel mix in the small cylinder. The two bind and 
cool by sucking out the heat, like evaporation.

``We're not creating cold, we're just removing heat,'' said Barney 
Guarino, president and CEO of Tempra Technology, a small private company 
which has worked on thermal technology since 1991.

Tempra, located in Bradenton south of Tampa, partnered with packaging 
giant Crown Cork & Seal Co., Inc. of Philadelphia to develop and mass 
produce the can.

``It is quite exciting and interesting. I think everyone agrees there is 
marketing opportunity for on-the-go consumers -- hiking, boating, 
fishing,'' said Dan Abramowicz, a Crown executive vice president.

``If market trials go well and there is strong interest by customers, it 
probably would take us 18 months to have a fully commercial line capable 
of producing millions of containers,'' Abramowicz said. Guarino says the 
company is negotiating with a European beer maker and some soft drink 
companies.

He estimates a 16-ounce can with 11 fluid ounces would sell for about 
$1.50. The self-contained can contains no gases or chemicals and is 
nontoxic and recyclable. A quick twist of the can breaks the seal, 
triggering the chilling process. The unit will continue to pump out heat 
until there is no more heat to remove. Then it will just remain idle. On 
a hot day, the liquid is expected to stay cold about 25 minutes. It 
won't go below freezing.

``Crown is one of the best and most highly regarded packaging companies 
in the industry and its involvement will certainly get a hearing from 
the beverage companies,'' said John Sicher, publisher of Beverage 
Digest, a trade publication based in Bedford, N.Y. But Sicher envisions 
only ``modest potential'' for the product, saying it will sell at a 
premium price and probably have limited appeal because of the 
accessibility of cold beverages from vending machines and convenience 
stores.

However, Tom Bachmann, publisher of Chicago-based Beverage Industry, 
said the product will at first be popular with boaters and campers. 
``But as the cans gains acceptance there could be a real benefit to 
Third World countries and countries where there is a lack of 
refrigeration,'' he said.

In the United States, Bachmann predicts ``self-chill'' beer and soda 
cans on the market by next summer with the technology then extending to 
juices, sport and energy drinks and water. But the Coca-Cola Co. is 
somewhat cool to the concept. Robert Baskin, company spokesman in 
Atlanta, said the soft drink giant has been looking at the technology 
for years.

Coca-Cola sells 17 billion cases of its products a year, Baskin said. 
The company has 16 million retail outlets globally and more than 2 
million vending machines in the U.S. and Japan that dispense chilled 
Coca-Cola drinks. ``The issue becomes 'Can a package be commercialized 
at an affordable price?'' Baskin said. ``It isn't commercialized yet.''

In late April, Tempra made its first public demonstration of ``I.C. 
Can'' in Denver at Cannex 2001, the packaging industry's forum for can 
manufacturers and suppliers. Guarino said it took a third-place award 
for creative or innovative technology. He was optimistic that its 
popularity will grow.

``With ``I.C. Can'' it will be a home run or it's not going to go at 
all,'' Guarino said. ``Thermal technology has unlimited applications. 
It's limited only by the imagination.''

Hara Ra wrote:

> I have the original article, appeared in OMNI magazine. Without 
> circulatory access, there is no way to cool the brain rapidly enough. 
> Conduction through the skull is not nearly fast enough. A major 
> limitation is that if you use a really cold gas, you freeze the outer 
> flesh. I'd have to look it up, but I believe there were fluids 
> introduced through the carotids and jugulars. Cannulation of these is 
> incredibly difficult, so such a device needs a skilled operator. If it 
> were available and worked, we would surely use it!
>
> At 10:30 AM 12/13/2004, you wrote:
>
>> "By the way I saw a story on a sat feed about 20 years ago of a CO2 
>> cooled helmet to rapidly cool the brain
>> to beat  the 4 minute factor from body temp to 32."
>>  
>> Couldn;t this be a handy household device to have around for people 
>> who live in rural areas? It can take qute some time for an ambulance 
>> to respond to a heart attack or similar problem in such a situation. 
>
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