[extropy-chat] Alleged Climate Collapse

Olga Bourlin fauxever at sprynet.com
Mon Feb 23 01:53:34 UTC 2004

From: "Mike Lorrey" <mlorrey at yahoo.com>
> >
> > http://www.fortune.com/fortune/print/0,15935,582584,00.html
> >
> > I know there are contrarians on this list regarding this topic.  If
> > you have thoughts from "counterpoint" side, please post.  I assume
> > here are some overlooked issues in this Fortune magazine article,
> > and I would be curious to learn more about them.
> I've already critqued this Pentagon study as fraught with leaps of
> illogic, namely:
> a) the claimed warming is happening in the arctic, not at the equator,
> thus the temp differential, which causes storms, is lessening, leading
> to LESS severe storms, not more severe storms. This is born out by the
> fact that the first half of the 20th century saw twice as many
> severe/major hurricanes as the last half did.
> b) the claim is that the north atlantic conveyor will shut down
> completely, leading to an Ice Age in northern europe. The conveyor is
> shut down because the arctic is TOO warm. When it cools again, the
> conveyor will start back up. This is a cycle known as the North
> Atlantic Occillation, which is well known to REAL geologists and
> climatologists who are involved in holocene studies. There will be no
> Ice Age.
> c) it is european reliance on diesel based transportation that is the
> primary cause of arctic warming, as the particulates from the diesel is
> what is causing arctic warming. NOTE: Europe does diesel because that
> is what the Greens tell it to... note the irony...
> d) the ice caps are secure (you have seen my prior posts on this
> topic). I will note that the pentagon study contradicts itself,
> claiming that there will be an Ice Age in the northern hemisphere AT
> THE SAME TIME that the ice caps collapse.... riddle me that...
> Whoever wrote this study is an ignorant hack.

Thank you, Mike (and for you post, as well, thank you, Spike).  This is what
I was looking for.

I am compiling a folder on this topic as I need to learn a lot more (see?
I've become more skeptical about what I read...).


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