[extropy-chat] crap crap crap and noise

Natasha Vita-More natasha at natasha.cc
Wed Nov 17 13:46:20 UTC 2004


At 12:02 AM 11/17/2004, j. Anderw Rogers wrote:

>On Nov 16, 2004, at 9:23 PM, Al Brooks wrote:
>>As I wrote in the last message: if you & others want
>>me to go, please say so and I'll tally up the number
>>who want me to leave; again, I remain here primarily
>>because Giulio asked me to stay on this list.
>
>
>While this list may not have much in the way of official rules, it did at 
>one time have community standards.  All that is being asked is that 
>everyone who posts make some attempt to abide by those standards.

A very nice post J. Anderw  Rogers.  Thank you.


>Let me sum them up for you:
>
>1.) Make your posts substantive.  If you can make your point in one line, 
>it probably didn't need to be made.  Captains of the obvious are not 
>really necessary either.  Be prepared to explain your reasoning in depth, 
>preferably putting your in-depth reasoning in the post even.
>
>2.) Make your posts rational.  Writing posts that assume the supernatural, 
>inconsistent mathematics, violations of thermodynamics, or any other 
>axioms that have obvious conflicts with reality better be prefaced by some 
>astoundingly good justification for those assumptions.  Know all the basic 
>Fallacies of Reasoning, and learn to instinctively identify them in your 
>thinking.  Discussing "what ifs" is fun, but it is not terribly 
>constructive if the "what ifs" are outside the scope of plausible 
>reality.  We have a signal-to-noise ratio to maintain here.
>
>3.) Do not become emotionally attached to your argument; there is no 
>insult in being wrong.  If you have to use your personal feelings to make 
>a point, you've pretty much lost the argument.  Enough said.
>
>
>The negative reaction you may be seeing results from the perception that 
>you are making no attempt to abide by the standards of the 
>community.  This community is tolerant and forgiving, but it may require 
>some genuine effort on your part to be a functional part of the community.
>
>
>j. andrew rogers
>
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Natasha Vita-More
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