[extropy-chat] 22nd century

Samantha Atkins samantha at objectent.com
Sun Oct 17 00:57:27 UTC 2004


I give up.  What the heck does the subject, which became mainly about 
embryos and their status and political maneuvering on same, have to do 
with the 22nd century?    How does adding an empty assertion at the end 
make this the fit subject line?

Speaking of assertions, asserting that only the will to power is behind 
all the controversies of the day is pretty empty and non-falsifiable.   
And what the hell is this empty assertion that Libertarians want power 
more than self-ownership?  Is this a claim that it is untrue that large 
  numbers of people want nothing more out of politics than to be left 
alone to live their lives in peace and voluntary interactions with 
others?  It looks like an assertion that they are all really 
power-hungry.  Please explain and support these rather odd assertions.

-s


On Oct 12, 2004, at 7:12 PM, Trend Ologist wrote:

> It's foolishness to think anyone in Bush's position
> has regard for embryos; third semester fetuses,
> perhaps, but not microscopic cells. Bush isn't a
> theologian or philosopher, he is a politician...
> politicians want power even more than life itself.
> Which segues into the main fault line of
> libertarianism: the sad fact is we want power more
> than self-ownership. The will to power is vastly more
> important to most than liberty. You are doing what you
> believe in being libertarians, in using FSP to attempt
> to change New Hampshire, and you can have fun doing
> it. Yet the time frame is longer than you think.
> Libertarianism is a 22nd century, not 21st century, philosophy.
>
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