Oxygenating the flame in threads was Re: [extropy-chat] a futurist prediction

[Bret Kulakovich]

On Aug 29, 2005, at 5:51 AM, Eugen Leitl wrote:

> On Fri, Aug 26, 2005 at 11:13:26AM -0400, Bret Kulakovich wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> The mailer attaches a footer, couldn't it inline a text-only flash
>> file that tabs up on a server, and reflect that number based on the
>> author, as well as add that tab to the start of the Subject:?
>>
>
> Why not just human myoelectricity, and a form of fusion?  
> Doubleplusgood jargon-fu,
> though.

Hah. Thanks. I had also considered Kirlian input fields from the USB  
chain. Kidding aside, mailman will allow html, and that footer could  
be put somewhere on one of the sites mentioned as a  
featherweight .swf - its just setting up that swf properly to grab  
info from the message that would be a trick.


>
>> Then we would have author clout (derived from # of posts over value
>> of posts), and thread quality (aggregate of total value over number
>> of posts), without adding duplicate list load to the server. Would
>>
>
> This is 2005. A dedicated server costs you about $20/month, some  
> 200 GB/month
> traffic included. That's enough hardware to host about a hundred of  
> lists
> with server-side prestige tracking, and the usual (web server/mail  
> server/web forum)
> in the bargain.

However, from what I am hearing, we have "like eight servers" doing a  
variety of things already. one of them could handle a 50 character  
string each time someone clicks a button. It would be less work than  
any of the multiple-list versions of implementation, and probably  
less of a hack on mailman, don't you think?

We also get to keep the non-linear format of email, which is good for  
us off-netters and trainbound types.


>> also be easier on the user to just click an up or down arrow and hit
>> submit at the bottom of each email.
>>
>
> If the server generates a one-time expiring token for each email  
> sent out, attaching
> an URL a la http://extropy.com/vote/ 
> 6c987bc1a463fa0ebfc921d946a69fc7a893003f
> to the bottom of each post which takes each user to a ranking page  
> that
> would work both in plain text and rich mail, be not too annoying  
> and be
> fairly manipulation-proof.

Ah - too much work serverside, don't you think? use the existing  
email header data as a token - say the message ID. I mean this list  
has huge headers, may as well do some recycling. As far as  
manipulation proof, only accept the click once from a said message id.


>
> Rich content could include voting with nice semantics like [--][-] 
> [0][+][++],
> which is enough resolution to rank a post.

I love that. That is a great idea. Does it have enough range though?  
I think the allusion alone carries it imho.


]3ret


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