[extropy-chat] Fear of flying

[Kevin Freels]

Yes. Riding in  a car is just as bad - except that when I sold cars for a 
while I was forced to get over it. I arrived at my destination yesterday and 
I am in Oregon now (anyone here close to Lake Oswego?). Something I need to 
consider later - My cab driver was nuts and drove like speed racer. Scared 
the living shit out of me. But the fear was "different". Maybe because 20 
minutes is far less than 4 hours, but I haven't had a chance to really think 
on it yet. Maybe because I am more used to cars. Not sure yet. I still wish 
I could nail down that difference between human fear f heights and Orang's 
love of heights. Before I do anything else, I think I am going to climb a 
tree when I get home and see if I experience the same fears. If I don't, 
that will show how much "fear of heights" plays into the problem.
***For those interested - I flew to Atlanta in a Window seat and actually 
more safe than my 2nd flight in a center aisle seat of a 767. Is there a 
greater amount of perceived control when I can see out the window vs not 
being able to? Who knows? I have nbo explanation, but it was an interesting 
observation. I am documenting this all on paper though and plan to publish 
it to the net when I get back - even if mosty think it is worthless 
information.


>> Just a question: how well do you handle being a front-seat passenger in a 
>> car? this is effectively equivalent to being
>> a passenger in an airliner. except that it is statistically much more 
>> dangerous.
>>
>> If you can deal with being a car passenger, how do you do it? can you use 
>> the same coping mechanisms for air travel?
>>
>> You are a control freak. Don't apologize for this: you were born that 
>> way., and there is nothing wrong with it.
>> Non-control-freaks cannot really empathize with your situation, so we 
>> cannot really help.
>
>
> [Les Strouse, a former Air America pilot, now living in Thailand is 
> fearful of stepladders.
> He flew Pilatus Porters landing and taking off from hilltop and ridgeline 
> airstrips in Laos
> and singlehandedly flew a new PP from Switzerland to Saigon.  Go 
> igure!  -Terry]
>
> Hi Terry,
> A solid list of experiments has determined that human babies
> (less than 1 year old - crawling stage) will not crawl - on a
> solid glass floor - out over a drop underneath that glass floor.
>
> They will however, if tempted or otherwise cajoled - agree to
> back out over the drop. But as soon as that `drop' becomes
> visible they immediately retreat to the non-drop portion of their
> environment.
>
> It seems we have a memory which says `height is dangerous' -
> especially if you're _not_ in control.
>
> cheers
>
> Ray D
>
> Thanks, Ray.  I remember seeing newsclips of this experiment.  If not 
> wholly
> learned then this is a genetic memory.  I wonder if this experiment has 
> included primate babies, chimps, gorillas, and orangutans?
>
> Terry
>
>
>
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>
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