Meta: Too far Re: [extropy-chat] Re: Iraq and legality again

[Samantha Atkins]

On Jun 28, 2005, at 4:18 AM, Brett Paatsch wrote:

> Samantha Atkins wrote:
>
>
>> I find many things objectionable.  Hubert spoke from his heart.   
>> I  for one understand how he feels.
>>
>
> I think I do too. But we are not mere brutes whose feelings are
> all that matters, we are homo sapiens. It doesn't take heaps of  
> imagination to understand a hound howling because it has a thorn
> in its paw. Its just that the howling is a poor means of  
> communication.

Well you watch for a time to say your piece in a balanced way.  You  
perceive the conversation being more and more unbalanced.  That gets  
frustrating.   Occasionally one or another such watcher speaks out in  
frustration and anger.  Instead of hearing the cause the frustration  
and anger is reacted to and we generally learn nothing.  Everyone is  
justified and no one learns.

>
>> If it does not need a response then why are you raising it up and   
>> suggesting a tally?
>>
>
> That was poor wording. I should not have said that. I don't want
> a tally. I want to work over issues with people who want to work
> them over.

OK.

>
>> Personally I am letting a lot ride because it is not worth my  
>> energy  and time to tease apart the in my opinion ridiculous  
>> justifications  for the war or its continuance.
>>
>
> That is fair enough. Your time is yours.
>
>> Nor is it worth my time to  continuously check Mike as he in my  
>> opinion often gives  libertarianism a bad name.
>>
>
> After the "as" and with the "often" that is not fair in my opinion and
> its flamebait to Mike.
>

That is my considered opinion as stated and there is nothing unfair  
in saying so.  I am certainly not alone among libertarians in having  
this opinion.   That his sig makes prominent his party affiliation  
leaves the inference that he speaks as a libertarian on the issues.   
As many of his positions, as he has pointed out, differ from that of  
many libertarians it is no great stretch to what I said above.


>> Nor is it worth my time to engage in  legalistic pissing contests  
>> devoid of any real understanding or wisdom.
>>
>
> Okay. So don't. But please be fair about it, if you have no real  
> interest
> then stay out until you do have an interest as you can only add heat
> not light. Not because you couldn't add light if you did care but  
> because
> you don't care.

I said no such thing.  I care very much.  I don't care for pseudo- 
intellectual bullshit that pretends to be reasoned discourse.

- samantha