[extropy-chat] A crushing defense of objective ethics. Universal Volition and 'Ought' from 'is'.

[giorgio gaviraghi]

i fully agree with you(except for the green cheese.
regards
Giorgio
)--- Eugen Leitl <eugen at leitl.org> ha scritto: 

> On Wed, May 11, 2005 at 12:18:45PM +0200, giorgio
> gaviraghi wrote:
> > since we are at 0.7 in the Kardashev scale of
> > civilization level while the Omega point is
> located at
> > an hypothetical Phase 5 level, we don't have any
> 
> The Kardashev scale is not a meaningful way to deal
> with Tipler.
> 
> > rational nor scientific possibility to make any
> > prediction, due to lack of basic information .
> 
> We're talking about Tipler's Omega Point theory
> http://www.math.tulane.edu/~tipler/summary.html
> 
> While not being a scientific theory, it contains a 
> few specific falsifyable, and since falsified
> predictions. 
> 
> In that sense, it's wrong.
> 
> > Check.www.biologydaily.com/biology/Kardashev_scale
> > only predictions can be based on faith, that's
> what
> > religions are made of.
> 
> Absolutely. The Omega point theory is a religion.
> 
> However, according to current cosmology the
> Kardashev phase 5 is unachievable due to
> signalling constraints due to dark energy-driven
> runaway expansion, and the total 
> number of operations is similiarly limited.
> 
> I also agree with you that at this time there is no
> point to discuss yet 
> unknown cosmology, or, rather, the very large number
> of possible yet 
> unknown cosmologies (including these, in which the
> Moon is made from
> uncollapsed green cheese wavefunction).
> 
> -- 
> Eugen* Leitl <a href="http://leitl.org">leitl</a>
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