[extropy-chat] On difficult choices (was: Books: Harris; Religion and Reason)
russell.wallace at gmail.com
Thu Jan 12 02:11:38 UTC 2006
On 1/12/06, Eliezer S. Yudkowsky <sentience at pobox.com> wrote:
> Elrond was so focused on the obvious wrong way to solve the problem that
> he didn't see the creative right ways. His great failure wasn't that he
> lacked ethics, it was that he didn't know how to use them. He thought
> his ethics were supposed to be heroic disadvantages. If Elrond had just
> taken for *granted* that he couldn't push Isildur off the edge, instead
> of agonizing, he would have seen easier and better solutions.
> It won't always be that way. We don't live in so kind a universe. But
> for Elrond it was so, even without Tolkien intending it.
> Did anyone else notice this, when they read the book, or watched the
(Minor nitpick: the impression I had from the book was that the conversation
happened on the battlefield, not at the Crack of Doom, though it doesn't
But yes, I did, and your point is a good one - well put!
I was impressed by the following article:
Which gives a very nice positive example from real history.
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