[extropy-chat] Cryonics and uploading

Bret Kulakovich bret at bonfireproductions.com
Thu Jan 26 17:07:11 UTC 2006



>> Lets jump forward and assume perfects - we quantum entangle a  
>> brain into a cubic 20cm box. It is a perfect and exact copy. Good  
>> job!
>>
>> But even though it is a duplicate of the original, it is not the  
>> original, no matter how perfect.
>
> On Jan 26, 2006, at 11:11 AM, Russell Wallace wrote:
> Okay, so you hold the thread view of identity, fair enough.

Tut-tut! I said no such thing!

If I duplicate item A perfectly in every sense as indicated, it is at  
the very best item A1. It is not item A, since Item A is sitting  
right there next to it, distinct and separate in every sense. A third  
copy would be A3, and so on, copying does not automatically mean  
replacing.


> But no, neither view has anything to do with that. If you're going  
> to try to relate the pattern view to classical philosophy, you  
> should call it not dualist but Platonist

And snub Descartes? He's the best thing Uploading (with a capital U)  
has going for it right now. If true I could remove my world-point-of- 
view from within my skull - pop it out like a Lego™ - and plug it  
into something else - we're golden!


> [1] Barbaric abuse of language, I know, are there any better short  
> terms for people who subscribe to the thread versus pattern views  
> of identity? I tried the "-ist" version and it looked even worse.

I won't tell if you won't tell. How else will etymology evolve?


Bret K.

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