[extropy-chat] Cryonics and uploading

[Heartland]

>> My word "perfect" means that both copy and the original share the same
>> brain structure. Do you mean that in order for a copy to be "perfect"
>> means that they have not only the same brain structure but also share the
>> exact same experiences?

John wrote:
> Well of course it does! The two may start out being identical but as soon 
> as
> then have different experiences they diverge, they no longer have the same
> brain structure and become separate people.

And that's where we differ. In my view they would have two separate *lives* 
even if both minds experienced exactly the same POV.

If the original got killed in front of the perfect copy, the original would 
not witness his own death through the eyes of the copy.


>> My strategy during the current round of debates has been to focus
>> attention of readers on subjective POV of the original.
>
> Every time I debate this people ALWAYS talk about the POV of the original.
> Always. Just once try thinking about the POV of the copy, put yourself in
> his place. You will find that the POV of the copy and original are
> identical.

I did put myself in copy's place and wrote earlier that I could be a copy 
while my original might be dead. Since uploading technology doesn't exist 
yet, logic tells me that I must be the original.


>> Why should you be jealous of your perfect clone eating your chocolate in
>> front of you if the clone is "technically" you?
>
> Because he is no longer me, obviously.
>
>   John K Clark

Please look at this last sentence and the last one in your previous 
paragraph. They seem to contradict each other. Since you say that POV of the 
original and the copy would be the same, then why do you admit that original 
would be jealous? If both POVs were the same, the original should have 
nothing to be jealous about because he would be tasting chocolate too.

Slawomir