[extropy-chat] Pleasure as ultimate measure of morality [Was: Pleasing Oneself]

Sondre Bjellås sondre.bjellas at intellifield.no
Wed Feb 28 13:22:48 UTC 2007


Please excuse me from jumping into the discussion here (new list member):

 

In the general population there is (to me) a lot more pleasure and enjoyment than general suffering and problems. While there are individuals who focus their time and effort on their problems instead of focusing on a positive loop, I don't think there is a correlation between pleasure and suffering. I think people who have experienced less suffering, can enjoy pleasures in the same amount and way as someone who has had a life of suffering. Even more so, people who have suffered will be marked with those experiences and they can be a negative thought in the back of your head while you are experience positive pleasure.

 

Regards,

Sondre Bjellås

 

From: extropy-chat-bounces at lists.extropy.org [mailto:extropy-chat-bounces at lists.extropy.org] On Behalf Of Stathis Papaioannou
Sent: 28. februar 2007 14:12
To: ExI chat list
Subject: Re: [extropy-chat] Pleasure as ultimate measure of morality [Was: Pleasing Oneself]

 

 

On 2/28/07, Ricardo Barreira <rbarreira at gmail.com> wrote:

> I think pleasure and suffering can weigh each other
> out. If and only if there is more pleasure than
> suffering in a person's life, that life is
> intrinsically worth living (all other things equal). 

So would you like to live a life in which you spend 50 years in heaven
and then 49 years in hell?


These things don't add algebraically. Some would say yes while others might pass up on it even if they were offered a minute of hell against 50 years of heaven, and a depressive or a masochist might even prefer an option with more hell than heaven. 

Stathis Papaioannou

 

 


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