[extropy-chat] an(other) Aussie visits Texas

Ben Goertzel ben at goertzel.org
Mon Jan 29 00:17:05 UTC 2007


Robert,

I am curious for your new thoughts on aging mechanisms and life  
extension.  Any preprints you could share?

thx
Ben G

On Jan 28, 2007, at 4:35 PM, Robert Bradbury wrote:

>
> Damien,
>
> You need to *seriously* be worried about encouraging me to give up  
> on humanity.
> I understand aging, I understand how to fix it and extend  
> lifespan.  I have significant questions about *why* one should  
> bother to do so (propagating stupidity is of questionable value).  [1]
>
> Posting URLs pointing out how *stupid* or uninformed the average  
> U.S. citizen [2], particularly when they are misled [3], is causes  
> me to debate seriously whether jumping off a bridge or jumping into  
> the SI camp (of letting the damm "FAI" take over) might not be  
> seriously better than the alternate paths.
>
> You run the risk of pointing out why the whole extropic effort is  
> doomed.  Is that your goal?  If you make being "stupid" a low cost  
> path then what one ends up with is more stupidity.
>
> Robert
>
> 1. I have been having discussions offlist with some about this.   
> What is the point to saving collections of information which are  
> destructive, unproductive, or potentially will ultimately have to  
> be deleted.  (There are strategies by which they might be saved but  
> one needs to come up with a good reason for doing so.)
> 2. Which one would hope the "average U.S. citizen" is better  
> educated than the average human on the planet  -- at least they  
> aren't murdering and/or raping and/or eating each other as tends to  
> be the case in Uganda, Sudan and the Congo.
> 3. The commentator, no matter what his accent is is not the  
> Australian Prime Minister. See [4].  Or is your goal to point out  
> how people in the U.S. will believe any assertion by someone with a  
> camera crew?
> 4. http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2006/05/images/ 
> 20060516-1_p051606pm-0312jpg-515h.html
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