[ExI] Bishop warns of no-go zones for non-Muslims - Telegraph

Charlie Stross charlie at antipope.org
Sun Jan 6 16:56:03 UTC 2008


BillK wrote:
> On Jan 6, 2008 5:19 AM, Seien wrote:
>> a) it is true.
>> b) If england won't buck up in time - and there is still time - move to
>> America. It's what Ayaan Hirsi Ali did with the netherlands.
> 
> It is true that a bishop in the Church of England made this speech and
> it was headlined in a right-wing conservative paper that blames all
> problems on immigrants, Muslims, homosexuals, drugs, etc.

Speaking as another Brit, that's basically true. Combination of loony 
out-of-touch god-botherer and right-wing conservative newspaper with a 
strong anti-muslim agenda. Don't let the "Londonistan" idiots bamboozle 
you -- this is basically propaganda pandering to a certain audience, and 
it's going to look about as believable in sixty years' time as the 
"Yellow Peril" scares of the 1930s and early 1940s do today.

> But bishops in the CofE mostly talk nonsense anyway.
> He was mainly having a moan about the loss of influence of the CofE in the UK.
> Fewer people go to church than ever before (and they are mostly old
> folk) and still fewer care about CofE pronouncements.

Sunday CofE attendance figures are lower than Catholic church attendance 
figures. And given that Catholicism was actually *illegal* in the UK for 
a few centuries, that's saying something.

> The problem isn't immigration so much as the tremendous drop in the
> birth rate of the original population. This is a problem faced by all
> European countries, and others, such as Japan.

Despite which, the UK is currently having its biggest baby boom in, oh, 
about 30 years. And it's not all immigrants, either: the locals are also 
spawning in large numbers.


-- Charlie



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