[ExI] consciousness and perception

Brent Allsop brent.allsop at comcast.net
Sat Jan 24 17:42:59 UTC 2009


Absolutely.   You are another person that has clearly become enlightened.

What, then, do you have against explicitly declaring such, joining this 
camp and helping the rest of the world finally become enlightened so we 
can finally climb up to the next level?


Brent Allsop

Damien Broderick wrote:
> At 12:42 PM 1/22/2009 -0800, Ian G. wrote:
>> When I wrote [*] for aught I knew
>> it was a new idea. I was pondering the question, since my percept of a
>> star in the heavens is actually just photos from a star that have struck
>> my optic nerve and been processed in my brain, how is it that the 
>> percept
>> appears 'out there'. Suddenly I concluded that what I see as being 'out
>> there' must be a model in my brain
>> [*] http://www.iangoddard.com/paranorm.htm
> Mental modeling has been investigated for decades, of course (and 
> seems to me self-evident); see, e.g. Philip Johnson-Laird's, um, 
> MENTAL MODELS (1983) and lots of work by Stephen Kosslyn and his 
> associates; from Wiki on Kosslyn: "Image and Mind (1980), Ghosts in 
> the Mind's Machine (1983), Wet Mind (1992, with Olivier Koenig), 
> ...Image and Brain (1994), The Case for Mental Imagery (2006, with 
> Thompson and Ganis)" etc.
> Your 1999 explanation for out of body experiences is pretty much the 
> same reached by psychologist/memeticist Susan Blackmore's (summarized 
> in Beyond the Body: An Investigation of Out-Of-The-Body Experiences, 
> Academy Chicago Publishers, 1983).
> Damien Broderick
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