[ExI] consciousness and perception

Damien Broderick thespike at satx.rr.com
Sat Jan 24 21:11:28 UTC 2009

At 12:27 PM 1/24/2009 -0700, Brent wrote:

>in addition to these behavioral properties, something about atoms 
>also has phenomenal qualities like red, green, the taste of 
>salt....  Very different than behavioral properties.  The atoms 
>don't generate subjectivity, they simply have the phenomenal 
>qualities subjectivity is made of.

NO NO NO NO. I don't think even Chalmers claims that (but maybe he 
does, he says a lot of strange things). Do you really suppose that 
the carbon and other atoms in a working cow muscle have *intrinsic* 
"leggish" phenomenal qualities that mysteriously morph into "yuckish 
rotten" phenomenal qualities if the steak is left out for the maggots 
to get at? Or is that too high-level? But there is no red-ness, 
either, in atoms, any more than there is yummy-ness or barf-ness.

Omg, I'm agreeing with John Clark!

Damien Broderick 

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