[ExI] To Arms!

[Lee Corbin]

Stefano makes many good points in the following.

Perhaps we differ only on our risk assessment, e.g. our estimates
for the probability that a Muslim culture far less tolerant than
ours will take over.

Lee


Stefano Vaj wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 5:32 AM, Lee Corbin <lcorbin at rawbw.com 
> <mailto:lcorbin at rawbw.com>> wrote:
> 
> 
>     I say "good"! Assimilate or else!
> 
> 
> Mmhhh, I do not follow you that much on this one, even though such a 
> position is nowadays shared by Guillaume Faye, an author I was 
> criticised for having translated in Italian, in particular in his 
> transhumanism-relevant writings.
> 
> In fact, I disapprove of unregulated immigration and the trading of 
> manpower as of assets exactly because it tends to destroy diversity and 
> popular sovereignties in the world, both in the departure and 
> destination countries, to the detriment of  specific features - such as 
> European tolerance or secularism - which some of us may hold dear.
> 
> "Assimilation" implies on the other hand the typically islamic (or 
> rather, monotheistic) idea that non-believers can and should be forced 
> to see the error of their ways and be "converted" to a universal truth.
> 
> Now, while I am only too favourable to a spontaneous evolution of muslim 
> views in a direction more compatible with mine, I have no special desire 
> to "digest" massive numbers of allogenous individuals cut out from their 
> communities and traditions and imported like cattle, along with their 
> beliefs, in my own, in the hope that the global entropic melting pot 
> originating from the process ends up being not-too-unacceptable from a 
> "western" view.
> 
> Ultimately, I think they should be allowed to protect and maintain their 
> own cultural identity - and that it should be demanded in return that 
> they respect mine, without, say, claiming for the enactement of laws on 
> my territory that be compliant with their own tradition.
> 
> Ultimately, a diverse world with different legal systems and 
> well-defined local popular sovereignties and ways of life is also IMHO 
> the best bet for transhumanism, allowing the deployment of competitive 
> mechanisms and preventing the global enforcement of legal or "moral" 
> prohibitions against technological and cultural developments which may 
> be conducive to a posthuman change.
> 
> -- 
> Stefano Vaj
> 
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