[ExI] YES! Hard-core transhumanist splinter groups yearning for cyber-heaven

samantha sjatkins at mac.com
Thu Jun 17 05:12:13 UTC 2010

Gregory Jones wrote:
> --- On *Wed, 6/16/10, Damien Broderick /<thespike at satx.rr.com>/* wrote:
> >...Could happen that way. But I think that goes waaaaay beyond 
> *human*ism, trans- or post-. Still, it might form part of our hopes, 
> our meta-goals... Damien Broderick
> Ja!  Our vision of the *end game* really does directly affect the way 
> we play.  Talk to any hardline environmentalist about *long term* 
> vision, a million years down the road.  Is her vision different than 
> yours?  It certainly differs from mine.  In my vision, sentience will 
> maximize itself.  The maximum sentience configuration is what I am 
> imagining. 
> Transhumanism has a lot of addition elements, such as life extension, 
> progress, self improvement and so forth, but my main interest is in 
> establishing our mind-children, as Moravek termed it, with every atom 
> and every photon somehow participating in the activity of thinking and 
> creating.

Is thinking and creating all there is?  Is it enough for you to be 
happy?   Why involve every atom and photon?   That seems rather 
pointlessly absolutist to me.   And it will never ever happen anyway 
without breaking the speed of light barrier.   What about the 96% of all 
that is that isn't atoms and photons? 

- s

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