[ExI] YES! Hard-core transhumanist splinter groups yearning forcyber-heaven

bret at bonfireproductions.com bret at bonfireproductions.com
Sat Jun 19 15:04:55 UTC 2010

Quoting Giulio Prisco <giulio at gmail.com>:
> It is a quick bumper-sticker-like compatibility check: if one
> considers uploading as feasible and desirable, (s)he is probably
> positively attuned to transhumanism, otherwise (s)he is probably not.

Hello all, it was such a pleasure seeing some of you last weekend at  
the H+ Summit - certainly if you are ever in my backyard again, please  
look me up.

On this point, now that I have read the thread. I think it is  
important to note on what Giulio has said here as something else.

By saying uploading is feasible, you are essentially agreeing to  
Dualism in the mind-body problem. You may as well have a bumpersticker  
that says so, since uploading in the you-go-not-a-copy sense is only  
going to be possible if Dualism is true - correct?

There is a website called commonsensemedia.org that helps parents make  
decisions on what their kids watch. My kids have not seen the movie  
"9" yet, in fact I almost wrote a review with the title "WARNING:  
CONTAINS DUALISM". So there are indeed Transhumanists that think the  
movement of self is rife with as yet unaddressable issues.

And as far as not adhering to a specific technology, (where my  
bumper-sticker would just say "I agree with Max") I do implore people  
to also not attach Transhumanism to any specific spiritual element.

Such an attachment would effectively close the door on the rest of the  
undecided population that has maybe only heard of Transhumanism  
peripherally. Although our ideas have not turned them (yet), any  
spiritual element would be a threat and send them running. One of  
Transhumanisms strengths is that it is not religious.


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