[ExI] psi yet again
ross.evans11 at gmail.com
Tue Jun 29 20:58:10 UTC 2010
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 8:29 PM, Damien Broderick <thespike at satx.rr.com>wrote:
> On 6/29/2010 12:12 PM, BillK wrote:
> That's why the CIA cancelled their remote viewing experiments.
> They weren't experiments, mostly; they were tasked, military-funded
> operations. The most regretable aspect of STAR GATE is that the military and
> intel communities funding it were not interested in research; they wanted
> operational results and they wanted them *now*. They got enough to keep
> funding the program for two decades.
The CIA thought Uri Geller had magic powers. The fact that a group to whom
you attribute credability spent time investigating this , does not extend
that credability to what they were investigating.
> They had no way of knowing whether the guesses provided any useful
>> intelligence unless an agent on the spot went and checked. And if you
>> have an agent on the spot anyway,---- who needs a remote viewer?
> There's some truth in this, except that you're missing the sometimes
> critical value in having a fairly exact place to send your agents on the
> (general) spot, knowing what to look for. Details on how this worked are
> available in a number of reports on STAR GATE and its predecessors (see
Seemingly not valuable enough for prevent the cancellation of the research
> Why the program was shut down is a rather complicated matter; in part it
> was due to program leaders and well trained RVers being moved on to other
> posts (you're not allowed to stay in one post in the military), their
> replacement by people who increasingly didn't follow the procedures worked
> out by earlier RV specialists, resistance by high placed Xian officers who
> stated their revulsion to this work which was clearly Satanic in origin (!)
> (but extropes have been keeping an eye on the dangerous infiltration of US
> armed forces by Xian fundamentalists, right?##), the collapse of the USSR,
> and finally because the results were less profitable than the use of
> emergent advanced technologies.
> None of this means that "CIA proved psi doesn't exist"; it means that CIA
> were tasked to shut down the program for motives that included all the
> above, while admitting that there was indeed an anomalous ability that had
> been utilized by the RVers. My friend Dr. Edwin May, the scientific director
> of STAR GATE, is working on a detailed history of the program even as we
> speak. Meanwhile, there are the AIR review reports, and books by military
> remote viewers such as Joe McMoneagle and Paul Smith (Smith's READING THE
> ENEMY'S MIND is rather good).
> Damien Broderick
> ## "We're Dealing with a Christian Taliban" <
Right, so having observed the utilisation of psi phenomena of incalculable
utility to national security, they walked away.
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