[ExI] Eliezer S. Yudkowsky, Singularitarian Principles. Update?

Giulio Prisco giulio at gmail.com
Sun Nov 14 18:34:31 UTC 2010


Though I may share your feeling that our intuitive notion of self may
need a radical redefinition in the future, in particular after
deployment of mind uploading tech, I will continue to feel free to
support what you call "wasted, misguided effort entailed in its
survival".

G.

On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 6:59 PM,  <x at extropica.org> wrote:
> 2010/11/14 Tomaz Kristan <protokol2020 at gmail.com>:
>> The conservatives like you two are doll like those Indians who wanted to
>> prevent any Moon landing on the basis of "don't touch our grandmother".
>> The warm feeling of ancient wisdom means, you are probably wrong.
>
> Tomaz, I'm about as far from "conservative" as it gets.  My thinking
> on human enhancement, transformation and personal identity, and the
> systems necessary for supporting such growth is in fact too radical
> for the space-cadet mentality that tends to dominate these
> discussions.  I would suggest the same is true of Stefano.
>
> For example, if we could ever get past the "conservative" belief in a
> discrete, essential self (a soul by any other name), and all the
> wasted, misguided effort entailed in its survival, we could move on to
> much more productive discussion of increasing awareness of our present
> but evolving values, methods for their promotion, and structures of
> agency with many more degrees of freedom for ongoing meaningful
> growth.
>
> - Jef
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