[ExI] turing test, was: RE: ai class at stanford

G. Livick glivick at sbcglobal.net
Tue Aug 30 06:10:55 UTC 2011

Spike, you have to lay off the coffee!


On 8/29/2011 10:29 PM, spike wrote:
>> ...On Behalf Of Emlyn
> Subject: Re: [ExI] turing test, was: RE: ai class at Stanford
>> ... And we talk to the man who coded Cleverbot, a software program that
> learns from every new line of conversation it receives...and that's chatting
> with more than 3 million humans each month...
> http://www.radiolab.org/2011/may/31/  --  ...Emlyn
> JA!  This is exactly what I have been wondering about for some time.  I
> think it is a simple enough coding task, even I might be able to do it
> singlehandedly, in you-know-what.  In a teen chat room, the dialog is simple
> minded indeed, scarcely able to pass for artificial idiocy.  I think I could
> write code that reads the archives, creates from that a lookup table and
> after reading a few megabytes, can generate passable teen drivel on its own.
> Then with fresh responses from unaware teens, it could continually expand
> and update that table to keep it stocked up with the latest hipster terms
> and usages.
> NOW THINK ABOUT THIS, for it would meet at least the loose definition of a
> learning program, it would pass the Turing test for at least the unaware, it
> would eventually be good enough that it would make a passable companion to
> those who are scarcely passable companions themselves, it would be able to
> discuss the latest teen idol, aaaaaand... it wouldn't even be all that
> difficult to code.  I think this would be a fun little project, one on which
> I could use the help of one of you hipsters.  What is an example of a teen
> chat site?  Is there a site that can be downloaded as one big revolting glob
> of teen text?  Has anyone here ever tried to download such a thing?  If you
> can, and will, do send it, and I will try to write up some code.
> More difficult question now: if I can code a teen chatbot, is it ethical?
> Morally OK to do that?  What bad consequences can be imagined?  What good
> consequences could be imagined?
> Since teens are emotionally delicate, or in most cases already have enough
> problems without finding they have just been having an hour long
> conversation with a spreadsheet, are there counter suggestions?  Would it be
> morally OK to go to a religion chat site and pull the same gag?  How about a
> motorcycle group?
> Regarding this last question about a motorcycle group, I belong to a group
> in which new people come along regularly and ask questions that have been
> asked a jillion times before.  I think I could write code that would
> recognize questions identical to a previous one from the archives and answer
> it.  This would be perfectly OK, and would be very open about being
> software.  For instance, we regularly get stuff like "Does Fram make an oil
> filter that would fit the cavalcade?  Joe Newbie"  The software would get
> the guy's name and answer immediately "Ja, Joe Newbie, use a PH4023, and if
> you can't find that, you can try a Delco 1660 which is a buck cheaper and
> works fine.  Answered by SpikeBot."
> That isn't trying to fool anyone, but helps the silly prole who asked the
> question.
> spike
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