[ExI] turing test, was: RE: ai class at stanford

G. Livick glivick at sbcglobal.net
Tue Aug 30 06:31:42 UTC 2011

Hey, I found a really large database of knowledge designed just for 
computers:  http://researchcyc.cyc.com/
As for programming, a no-brainer is the free IDE/Compiler/Linker from 
The latest has 32 and 64 bit installations, and a whole lot of free 
stuff to use.  I've used this platform for years (in various 
iterations), both professionally and for my robot stuff; it's simple to 
get going and make things happen, although the user manuals and 
explanations of the various APIs SUCK IMHO.

Shall we expect something to emerge from your development platform in 
time to keep us company on those long, cold, rainy nights coming up soon?

With a slight tug on the leg of Spike,


On 8/29/2011 10:29 PM, spike wrote:
>> ...On Behalf Of Emlyn
> Subject: Re: [ExI] turing test, was: RE: ai class at Stanford
>> ... And we talk to the man who coded Cleverbot, a software program that
> learns from every new line of conversation it receives...and that's chatting
> with more than 3 million humans each month...
> http://www.radiolab.org/2011/may/31/  --  ...Emlyn
> JA!  This is exactly what I have been wondering about for some time.  I
> think it is a simple enough coding task, even I might be able to do it
> singlehandedly, in you-know-what.  In a teen chat room, the dialog is simple
> minded indeed, scarcely able to pass for artificial idiocy.  I think I could
> write code that reads the archives, creates from that a lookup table and
> after reading a few megabytes, can generate passable teen drivel on its own.
> Then with fresh responses from unaware teens, it could continually expand
> and update that table to keep it stocked up with the latest hipster terms
> and usages.
> NOW THINK ABOUT THIS, for it would meet at least the loose definition of a
> learning program, it would pass the Turing test for at least the unaware, it
> would eventually be good enough that it would make a passable companion to
> those who are scarcely passable companions themselves, it would be able to
> discuss the latest teen idol, aaaaaand... it wouldn't even be all that
> difficult to code.  I think this would be a fun little project, one on which
> I could use the help of one of you hipsters.  What is an example of a teen
> chat site?  Is there a site that can be downloaded as one big revolting glob
> of teen text?  Has anyone here ever tried to download such a thing?  If you
> can, and will, do send it, and I will try to write up some code.
> More difficult question now: if I can code a teen chatbot, is it ethical?
> Morally OK to do that?  What bad consequences can be imagined?  What good
> consequences could be imagined?
> Since teens are emotionally delicate, or in most cases already have enough
> problems without finding they have just been having an hour long
> conversation with a spreadsheet, are there counter suggestions?  Would it be
> morally OK to go to a religion chat site and pull the same gag?  How about a
> motorcycle group?
> Regarding this last question about a motorcycle group, I belong to a group
> in which new people come along regularly and ask questions that have been
> asked a jillion times before.  I think I could write code that would
> recognize questions identical to a previous one from the archives and answer
> it.  This would be perfectly OK, and would be very open about being
> software.  For instance, we regularly get stuff like "Does Fram make an oil
> filter that would fit the cavalcade?  Joe Newbie"  The software would get
> the guy's name and answer immediately "Ja, Joe Newbie, use a PH4023, and if
> you can't find that, you can try a Delco 1660 which is a buck cheaper and
> works fine.  Answered by SpikeBot."
> That isn't trying to fool anyone, but helps the silly prole who asked the
> question.
> spike
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