[ExI] [atlantis_II] Old Chemically Mature Galaxies and Fermi Paradox

Dennis May dennislmay at yahoo.com
Fri Nov 4 20:33:59 UTC 2011


I wrote:
 
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/11/111102092929.htm

> An interesting spin on the Fermi Paradox - 12 billion years ago
> there were whole galaxies more chemically mature than our sun. 
> About a year or two ago I recall discussion somewhere about 
> how we are alone because it has only been recently that sufficient 
> chemicals for life were available - according to the Big Bang theory.


Dan
Ust wrote:
 
>  Maybe the age estimates are wrong, but it
still seems like that 
>  wouldn't explain nearer ones being less
"chemically mature." 
>  Is your suggestion that there's a process
that resets the clock 
>  here -- and, further, that this process it technological?
 
No my suggestion is that the
universe is indefinitely old.  There are
some mature galaxies at the edge
of observation – this has been the 
case no matter how far back the observations
look.  Unfortunately
bright galaxies usually mean
young galaxies so there is cherry 
picking biasing the belief that
galaxies far away are generally 
chemically young [easy to see] – this
seems true unless you 
methodically count them all.  Young galaxies poor in metals have
been observed nearby.  
 
This indicates by observation
that the Big Bang age is not correct.
There should be no old galaxies
near the beginning of the Big Bang
age and there should be no metal
poor new galaxies nearby but both
have been observed.
 
I have discussed my views on how
this comes about elsewhere
[Physics_Frontier at Yahoogroups].  Short summary:
 
New galaxies are continually forming
from a combination of light 
gases ejected into intergalactic
space and matter/energy recycling
due to non-linear QM
effects.  Our own sun has been observed
ejecting high velocity streams
preferentially sorting Hydrogen
and Helium by velocity and
leaving other elements far behind.
The observation of the ratio of
hydrogen to helium could be 
nothing more than the averaging
of such ejection methods with
heavier materials generally left
behind.
 
New galaxies are always forming
but old ones lose material
to the rest of the universe
though conventional methods plus
non-linear QM.  What we see is the balance formed over an
indefinitely long period of time.
 
Dennis May
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