[ExI] USA co2 emmissions plunge to 1994 levels

Eugen Leitl eugen at leitl.org
Fri Apr 26 14:12:36 UTC 2013


On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 06:39:37AM -0700, spike wrote:

> Ja, but the Kyoto agreement goals were about carbon dioxide emissions.  If

I don't care about the letter of the agreements, but about the
the intent to do the Right Thing. All that carbon indulgence
trading at ridiculously low rates only buys you a clean conscience
for dirty deeds.

> you go with your argument, you create justification for the USA refusal to
> sign on.

The treaty doesn't matter, and what the parties agreed to doesn't matter.
The reality is that freshly out of oil, everybody has turned to coal, and 
they're burning it. All of it.

Not a damn thing can be done about that anymore, so just prepare for
ocean pH dropping below aragonite stability, anoxic dead zones,
ice-free North Pole, breakdown of thermohaline circulation, sea level
rising, extreme weather events, runaway release of permafrost
clathrates, precipitation shift, crop loss, migration, war, and 
other equally hilarious things.

Not that big of a problem, if compared to loss of cheap plentiful
energy. That one can well cook our goose, for good. What, me, worry?



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