[ExI] far future

Tue Dec 31 02:18:49 UTC 2013

What of the people who convince themselves of a particular thought that is not normal for the collective?
On a conscious level, convincing themselves somehow that sex is a bad thing, that serotonin release is a bad thing, or assuming the complete effect of hallucinogens on the brain has been realised-what about the people who want to induce trips, there is a potential that they may never want to switch off?
Unless modifications have been done to restrict what parts of the brain people can and cannot access, there would still be people who would think in a different way... And I feel like I'm venturing into 1984 territory now..

On 31/12/2013, at 5:42, William Flynn Wallace <foozler83 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Fights, wars, are things of the distant past.  There is no reason to mold a person as a warrior, though certainly the designs for them are still in computer memory.  There are no weapons except those prepared for alien invaders, of whom nothing has been seen yet.  Aggressiveness, excess testosterone - gone.  Actually, both men and women have the same. Same height, same strength, etc. (as demanded by women -so, no 'little woman', or 'baby', or need to protect them)
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> Along with the naturalistic bent of my future is the idea that any sort of improvement comes from genes, not environment.  If a future person did not like the hair they were born with Big Computer would examine their genes to find out what's wrong.  So, no enhancement, no tattoos.
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> Muscles are about three times stronger, as are bones and sinews, enhancements that were made tens of thousands of years ago when warriors were designed, and kept in the gene pattern.
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> There is more of an Asian mind set in the future people - I am not important, the group is important, don't stand out in any way, don't compete except with yourself.
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> There will be a satire element but I don't want to discuss that now.
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> The population is down to a few thousand and going down to two - so, a new Eden.  My character's visit there/then is part of a plan for everyone to vote on what is the perfect human.
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> They can give people the smell sensitivity of a bear, eyesight of an eagle, and so on, but to what purpose?  One of my favorite improvements is the ability to inhibit certain brain stimulations.  For example, they cannot overeat because inhibition kicks in and the food tastes like cardboard.  Also, they can see much further into their unconscious that we can and stop cognitive errors such as overgeneralizing or over discriminating. They can also, as you mentioned, increase the flow of brain chemicals that give pleasure or whatever - no need for any drugs:  food, sex, music etc. create massive pleasure, much like we try to enhance with pot of something.  But they don't get addicted because of the ability to turn these off, which is automatic after a certain time.  (an orgasm lasting, say, ten minutes, would probably kill a person - so they are fairly conservative in their outlook).  
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> And I haven't even mentioned the sexual enhancements!
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> On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 12:26 AM, Nuala Thomson <nuala.t at gmail.com> wrote:
>> This would be the first time I've contributed to anything, and I was pleased to receive your email.
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>> I can offer my ideas of what I want to do to myself based on what technology would be available in the future but a lot of it would be conservative.
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>> The only genetic alteration I want done is to change my hair colour to purple.
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>> Brain enhancement wise: being able to control the release of chemicals and how much is released. Adrenalin and serotonin are a good example.
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>> More cyborg related: increased strength and grip by electrical impulses.
>> Limb replacement (eg, below the elbow or whole arm) replaced with metal for bones and synthetic skin, that house hidden weapons. Think hidden blade assassins creed style (something to look up if you don't play video games), or a mini turret gun.
>> I know a lot of people that want enhanced eyesight. To be able to switch from normal vision to infra red or UV.
>> If you're after more military style I'd look into some of the augmentations the main character from Deus Ex had. It would atleast provide some inspiration.
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>> One of my ultimates would be to become a part of my motorbike. To share a consciousness. To be able to not sit on but more inside, have it read my energy/genetic code and respond based on that. From ignition to suspension. I suppose if there were a way to meld with my bike on a conscious level, Avatar (the movie) had it pretty close. But what I imagine is more a bike that you slot your limbs into.
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>> Anyway there are some ideas, and I hope those references give you some inspiration.
>> I would love to read your book when it's ready, or not.
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>> And I apologise for any grammatical errors and disjointed text.
>> This is a reply on my phone during work.
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>> Nuala.
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>> On 30/12/2013, at 12:34, William Flynn Wallace <foozler83 at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> > I am writing a book on the far future based on eugenics.  Then, genetics has been nearly perfected and many changes have been made to humans, both physical and mental.
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>> > I would like to find out  fellow members' ideas on just what changes should be made in us if that were possible and discuss them.  And yes, I might include them in my book and give you credit.
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>> > I am new to the list and maybe have filled up emailboxes with unwanted content. If so please excuse.  I do not know how to find my topic or members who might be interested.
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>> > I am an old social psychologist.
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>> > Sincerely,
>> >
>> > William F Wallace
>> > Brandon MS USA
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