[ExI] ​Re: possible scheme for privacy

Angel Arturo Ramirez Suárez angelarturo911216.1991 at gmail.com
Sun Jul 20 21:49:41 UTC 2014


​Sorry about that, like this? Wondered whether it was automatically trimmed
or who managed it. Guess I got my answer. Thanks!

​



>> >Meshnet is a very good effort, but still has some ongoing security issues
> that need to be addressed.
>
> The FAQ says the protocol used by Meshnet "is not anonymous, nor is it
> intended to be."
> (https://wiki.projectmeshnet.org/FAQ#Is_Cjdns_anonymous.3F)
> There are also many other problems documented with the Meshnet protocol.
>  The white-paper says, "Not every problem listed has an existing solution
> and of the ones which do, many of the solutions are based on incompatible
> technology."
> (
> https://github.com/cjdelisle/cjdns/blob/master/doc/Whitepaper.md#user-content-so-the-problems-are-already-solved
>  )
> So this solution is not complete yet.  But it is definitely good work and
> headed in the right direction!
>
>
>
> ​Thanks! I got interested after reading Ander's Sandberg's Transhuman
> page, I had no idea the community was so active.
>
>
>
> Now about the anonymity, from what I read the protocol lets people know
> who is connected but not what kind of information is sent to try to avoid
> the kind of issues most DeepWeb/DarkNet protocols face which is that they
> promote illegal activities due to the fake identities and anonymity, I
> still don't know how good their approach is but they welcome any developer
> to submit their own ideas of how the new web should be.
>
>
>
> ​>​
>
> In TOR, a far-reaching entity can monitor a very large number of ISPs and
> exit nodes to match traffic patterns between the sender (real IP and
> encrypted message) and the TOR exit node (fake IP and unencrypted message)
> to link the real IP with the unencrypted message.  Although TOR is
> generally safe, there is no way to prevent a big enough monitoring system
> from catching everything.
> (
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tor_(anonymity_network)#cite_note-torproject-fail-both-ends-32
> )
>
> ​>​
>
> In BitCoin, anybody can claim a bitcoin mere seconds after somebody
> announces it.  The community of BitCoin nodes vote on whose claim they saw
> first.  But a well-funded entity can create a large enough number of nodes
> in a single group or on the fastest backbones such that they can out-vote
> everybody and claim any BitCoin they want.
> (
> http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/184427-one-bitcoin-group-now-controls-51-of-total-mining-power-threatening-entire-currencys-safety
> )
>
> ​Agree that Tor and BitCoin have those issues and MeshNet definitely has
> its own, as you said it's an arms race on ​who can provide the highest
> level of security versus those that want to read it.
>
>
>
> I'm curious on what would be the best scheme for humanity's future,
> especially know that brain-computer interfaces are making reading and
> rewriting memories a possibility. Should we strive for a world where
> there's a layer that allows complete privacy and anonymity and freedom to
> access any content we want or should we instead strive for a society where
> nothing's hidden, not even our thoughts and everything's freely accessed?
> It would promote honesty and make criminal thoughts or activities harder to
> commit but at the same time the idea of losing all privacy seems
> unappealing.
>
>
>
> What are extropians thoughts on the matter? I'm curious.
>
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