[ExI] Religious Idiocy Triumphs Over Science Yet Again

[Dan TheBookMan]

On Dec 5, 2558 BE, at 6:33 PM, Rafal Smigrodzki <rafal.smigrodzki at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Sat, Dec 5, 2015 at 7:28 PM, Dan TheBookMan <danust2012 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Dec 5, 2558 BE, at 4:19 PM, Rafal Smigrodzki <rafal.smigrodzki at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> ### Guilt over Indians is unjustified. They were violent, frequently enough cannibalistic, ignorant, ignoble and their plight is of their own doing.
>> 
>> I disagree. They were wiped out by disease and conquest. Not every last one of them, especially their children, deserved that. The cases in the US where they tried to live peacefully with Whites, but then were massacred.
> 
> ### I don't believe it. Indians as a rule did not live peacefully with their neighbors, regardless of race or creed. Existing primitive tribes are warlike, treacherous, and virulently xenophobic. The Amerind were the same, regardless of what a century of whitewashing tried to tell us. And not every last was wiped out - in fact, the ones who were peaceful enough and willing to learn from whites, contributed to our society. Just ask Sen. Warren.

I think you're using this as an excuse. Whites, likewise, warred with each other, including, for the US, its Civil War, which was brutal in the extreme. Some American Indians did get along with Whites and lived peacefully. They had treaties, for instance. But these were, as a rule, violated by the US government.

I specifically brought up the example of the Sand Creek Massacre because that's exactly what it was: a massacre by the US military. 

I'm a little shocked here. Can you imagine aliens landing on Earth and perhaps massacring humans based on the same arguments you're making: humans fight amongst themselves, so anything done to them is fine? And, oh, it'd be fine as long as they didn't wipe out all humans, but left a tiny fraction alive, which they herded into the least desirable locations -- in order for their kind to take the best land?

And this has nothing to do with whitewashing. I completely agree there were warlike tribes and individuals. That's not an valid justification for anything goes against all of them. It doesn't give a carte blanche on war.

And this has nothing to do with respect for their religions, which I freely urinate, vomit,  and defecate upon. (That goes for all your religions.) People have rights; that's what I respect.

Regards,

Dan
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