[ExI] Religious Idiocy Triumphs Over Science Yet Again

Sun Dec 6 17:33:15 UTC 2015

John Clark wrote:

We? I don't feel the least bit guilty because I wasn't alive back then.
And I have no doubt that the history of 
American aborigines
 from 16,000 BC to 1492 AD was at least as bloody and unjust as that of
the Europeans. The Noble Savage never existed.

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You are correct.  They were no better than we are or than we were. I just
don't see any problem with giving them a break now and then.  Nothing could
repay what we did, just as nothing we can do for descendants of slaves will
heal the wound.  I also agree that I should feel no guilt and I don't.

Man's inhumanity to man:  will we ever learn just how animalistic we really
are at the very core of us?  And maybe next time think a bit before we
shoot?  Maybe repeat the Golden Rule a few times?  Maybe not elect those
who dwell on fears and do shoot first or at least advocate it?

bill w

On Sun, Dec 6, 2015 at 11:16 AM, John Clark <johnkclark at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sat, Dec 5, 2015  William Flynn Wallace <foozler83 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> 
>>> My proof will come with California’s high speed rail project: paying off
>>> various religious and native groups will become steadily more expensive as
>>> more track is laid.  spike
>>
>>
>> > 
>> Religious groups, no.  But our American aborigines, yes.  We have a giant
>> guilt complex regarding them which is fully justified.  OK, so they were in
>> the stone age when we came but that doesn't justify the slaughter or the
>> broken treatises.
>>
>>
> We? I don't feel the least bit guilty because I wasn't alive back then.
> And I have no doubt that the history of 
> American aborigines
>  from 16,000 BC to 1492 AD was at least as bloody and unjust as that of
> the Europeans. The Noble Savage never existed.
>
>  John K Clark 
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>> bill w
>>
>> On Sat, Dec 5, 2015 at 2:07 PM, Dan TheBookMan <danust2012 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, Dec 5, 2015 at 10:17 AM, spike <spike66 at att.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* extropy-chat [mailto:extropy-chat-bounces at lists.extropy.org] *On
>>>> Behalf Of *Dan TheBookMan
>>>> *…*
>>>>
>>>> are Donald Trump, Ben Carson and Ted Cruz, world class ignoramuses
>>>> all. …  John K Clark
>>>>
>>>> Donald Trump: graduated from Wharton school of business, became a
>>>> self-made multi-billionaire.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> >…If inheriting millions makes someone self-made, then I guess
>>>> "self-made" is a useless term now…Dan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Using John’s numbers, he inherited 40 million, now is about 4 billion.
>>>> That’s 100-fold increase, when the stock market increased by about a factor
>>>> of 20 to 25 in that same four decades.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I grant there was plenty of luck involved.  Lucky is good.
>>>>
>>>
>>> The luck of what? Connections with those in power that one can influence
>>> with a quite large inherited fortune? Also, what is the use of his
>>> particular business acumen here? So he can take a huge fortune and make it
>>> bigger. Why should such a man be given any power over others?
>>>
>>> And, in this particular discussion, would you say he's a good judge of
>>> what direction scientific research should go?
>>>
>>> By the way, I know one person who inherited approximately $1200 from his
>>> parents. He's made a six figure salary for about a dozen years. Would you
>>> say he's on the same level of Trump?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Dan
>>>   Sample my Kindle books via:
>>> http://www.amazon.com/Dan-Ust/e/B00J6HPX8M/
>>>
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