[ExI] SETI for Post Singularity Civs
protokol2020 at gmail.com
Fri Jan 23 10:20:39 UTC 2015
> Supernovae are required to create the heavy elements in the universe. If
you shut them off, then future life probably won't develop.
This is exactly what an advanced civilization wants. No future threats from
new savages out there. And if an advanced civilization needs iron and it
is nowhere to be found, it cooks it and not waits for a supernova nearby.
> If pre-singularity ET life exists, then it is likely still bound to the
originating planet, like humans.
Several of them, might. But not millions. It's against all the odds, given
the time spans we see here.
> Their interests are in the virtual reality they have created for
They need to make sure, nobody will disturb them, ever. They should destroy
our Solar system long ago to prevent us to compromise their protocols
sometimes in the future.
If they weren't sure if anybody is about to evolve here, they should
destroy our system non the less.
> We will live in our own virtual reality, far from planetary systems.
We will colonize everything. Even if only for the sake of the peace we want
to enjoy while playing in the virtuality. We don't want mom comes and
interfere with the homework business or something. Much less an angry, ax
wielding crazy neighbor. So, we are going to give a special playing device
to our mom and friends and kill of all the crazy neighbors.
On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 10:49 AM, BillK <pharos at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 23 January 2015 at 08:02, Tomaz Kristan wrote:
> > This is true. But not only the absence of some artificial structures,
> > the presence of the natural matter in the form of stars and galaxies is a
> > strong evidence that nobody very smart is out there.
> > Had been an advanced civilization anywhere around us, it would have made
> > some preventions against supernovae. Against some future aggressive
> > and all other possible calamities. I mean, we can't tolerate Betelgeuse
> > much longer. It will explode in our faces soon. We have to dismantle it,
> > this is still possible, if the explosion has not already happened.
> > The presence of the natural stars alone, is the proof of the absence of
> > intelligent civilizations. However odd it may sound, it's true.
> I agree, but.......
> Supernovae are required to create the heavy elements in the universe.
> If you shut them off, then future life probably won't develop.
> If pre-singularity ET life exists, then it is likely still bound to
> the originating planet, like humans. And there may be a lot of early
> life, like bacteria, on many planets.
> If fast thinking AI exists, then we are in a new ball game. What we
> think likely doesn't apply to them.
> They don't manipulate the physical universe. They probably move into
> deep space. They don't broadcast their presence. Why would they? The
> physical universe appears frozen and unchanging to them. Their
> interests are in the virtual reality they have created for themselves.
> Even if humans survive our singularity we probably won't contact other
> fast-thinkers. We will live in our own virtual reality, far from
> planetary systems.
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