[ExI] SETI for Post Singularity Civs

Rafal Smigrodzki rafal.smigrodzki at gmail.com
Thu Jan 29 16:58:01 UTC 2015

On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 2:48 PM, BillK <pharos at gmail.com> wrote:
> So far as we can see, ETs are not eating stars. So, as you say, either
> they don't exist, or are so incredibly rare that they are not in our
> area of the universe. That seems to indicate that intelligent life
> does not survive for long.

### There is insufficient data on that. Knowing a census but in the absence
of knowledge about the rate of formation of life, you cannot estimate the
rate of intelligent life disappearance.

> My attitude is called Hope.

### You should not let emotional considerations influence your estimates of


> The alternative is that intelligent life
> does survive, but it doesn't do what we (at our present stage of
> development) would expect. My suggestion of ETs hiding in deep space,
> in a virtual reality civilisation suited to their high speed thinking
> is only a hopeful survival path for ETs that fits the lack of evidence
> for their existence that we have.

### Indeed, if for some reason you assume lots of ETs are born, then given
visible evidence, they die soon or stay alive invisible, and I would agree
that staying invisible may be more aspirational than dying.

But why assume that lots of ETs are born?  There is so far no strong
evidence to that effect.

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