[ExI] Self-Driving Cars Must Make Ethical Decisions

William Flynn Wallace foozler83 at gmail.com
Thu Jul 30 18:52:50 UTC 2015


We have to add to 'nothing is idiot proof', 'nothing is genius proof'.
Although....

Maybe airplanes have a different kind of hardware and software, but no one
has remotely controlled one yet, right?  I have to bet they've tried.  bill
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On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 12:14 PM, spike <spike66 at att.net> wrote:

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> *From:* extropy-chat [mailto:extropy-chat-bounces at lists.extropy.org] *On
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> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 29, 2015 11:10 PM
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> *Subject:* Re: [ExI] Self-Driving Cars Must Make Ethical Decisions
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> On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 9:00 AM, Tara Maya <tara at taramayastales.com>
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> >>…My prediction is that the biggest danger of self-driving cars will be
> if they are susceptible to being hacked by malicious humans. Harm will be
> done on purpose, by trolls or terrorists, far exceeding what will happen by
> unavoidable accidents.
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> >…I suspect this will far more likely be correct if there are
> government-mandated ways for "authorized law enforcement officials" to
> remotely control said cars.  While this would be done with good intentions,
> recent history demonstrates that the majority of controllers in practice
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> >…* at first, law enforcement officials without legally valid
> authorization (blank, unsigned, or non-existent warrants), * …
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> Excellent points.  Law enforcement will want some way to stop a robo-car
> externally, but consumers might want a robo-car which will go where
> instructed even with an inert passenger.  Law enforcement is now empowered
> (in many jurisdictions) to seize cash if they find you with a pile of it,
> and their drug-sniffing dogs are really looking for cash (because the cops
> don’t really get to keep the dope they seize but they get to keep the cash.)
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> If they see someone dozing behind the wheel or humping in the back seat or
> whatever, they are going to want to pull over that robo-car and look for
> cash, to fund some cool new cruisers and automatic weapons and things that
> cops like to play with.
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> There are some perfectly legitimate reasons to pull over robo-cars: an oil
> spill on the road for instance, or an Amber Alert, but if cops have that,
> it gives them the means to do wrong (and a few of them will.)  It also
> empowers the full-time bad guys.
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> Oy.
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