[ExI] Censorship

Adrian Tymes atymes at gmail.com
Wed Jun 1 17:39:22 UTC 2016


On Jun 1, 2016 1:49 AM, "Anders" <anders at aleph.se> wrote:
> On 2016-05-31 20:36, Adrian Tymes wrote:
>> On May 28, 2016 1:31 AM, "Anders Sandberg" <anders at aleph.se> wrote:
>> > if it is not possible to have a debate about whether they should be
changed, then society is not open.
>>
>> Does this include where the opponents of change simply refuse to engage
in honest debate, making up facts to support their position?  That is
something that said opponents can not usually be forced to change or
concede.
>
> Sometimes. But if the proponents of change have a compelling narrative
that can attract people, then the lack of honest debate from one side can
become counterproductive for them in the end.

But that is still a one sided debate, and thus not open, correct?
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