[ExI] Humans losing freewill

[Stathis Papaioannou]

On 20 November 2016 at 05:29, William Flynn Wallace <foozler83 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> (sorry, I did it again - sent before I was ready)
>
> I just want to know what the hell the term means.
>
> John K Clark ​
>
> I suspect, without any evidence at all, that it comes from Christianity.
> If we are always doing God's will because that's the way God set it up,
> then there is no room for sin, and sin is the basis of the religion:  Adam
> and Eve sinned and it has to be their choice or there is no justification
> for eviction from Eden.
>
> Add to it the doctrine that their sin infected every single human since,
> and we have original sin; ergo, babies are born lacking a state of grace
> (necessary to go to heaven) and must be saved
>  by their own choice.(here sects disagree about baptism, immersion, etc.)
>
> So free will is necessary for the very bases of this religion.
>
> Best I can do, I think.  Consult a philosophical dictionary for more.
>
> I don't believe in any of it.  "I did not mean to do that" means "I wish I
> had not done that".
>


That explanation doesn't help. The problem is that "free will" is either
trivial: you do what you want to do, if you wanted to do something
different you would have, you're not sure what you are actually going to do
until you've done it; or incoherent: your actions are neither random nor
determined.


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Stathis Papaioannou
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