[ExI] right to try bill

William Flynn Wallace foozler83 at gmail.com
Sat Sep 24 13:38:15 UTC 2016


>… Making somebody live when they want to die as as great a injustice as
making somebody die when they want to live…. John K Clark



Is there anything more basic to libertarianism than the idea that no one
owns your body (or soul - some one has said that he was leaving his soul to
whichever god could find it).


Oregon has an assisted suicide law, but there should be no law of any
kind.  Making it legal means it was considered illegal to begin with.


Now there is an idea that may be worth considering:  there are laws against
evading debt.  Errant husbands and other fathers are legally required to
provide support for the mother and child.  This means that the gov. owns
part of your income, not your body, but committing suicide to avoid your
debts should have some legal consequences, eh?


I hope this finishes off the discussion and we can get back to Spike's idea.


bill w

On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 10:39 PM, Dan TheBookMan <danust2012 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> On Sep 23, 2016, at 8:05 PM, spike <spike66 at att.net> wrote:
>
> *From:* extropy-chat [mailto:extropy-chat-bounces at lists.extropy.org
> <extropy-chat-bounces at lists.extropy.org>] *On Behalf Of *John Clark
>
>
>
> ​>>…Indeed sir?  Suppose the government decides you are terminally ill
> and deplorable.  Is it allowed to assist you in suicide?
>
>
>
> >… Making somebody live when they want to die as as great a injustice as
> making somebody die when they want to live…. John K Clark
>
>
>
>
>
> Ja agreed.  I am considering the risk that the government will decide a
> number of us outspoken ones (on the internet, which never forgets) are now
> terminally ill, and wish to “assist” us in our suicide.  The government of
> Germany decided a large number of people were terminally ill and assisted
> their suicides in the 1930s.
>
>
> That's what I thought you meant too: that the government assisting people
> would be regardless if they wanted to be assisted.
>
> My guess is Clinton would also say she supports some kind of evaluation
> too. I've often seen people argue that this is necessary because otherwise
> grandpa might be killed off and it made to look like he 'made' the choice
> by his kids and grandkids who don't want him and the hospital to eat up his
> fortune. I doubt any mainstream candidate who supports euthanasia,
> including Clinton, is against an evaluation.
>
> I also agree with Dave's point: the plumb line libertarian position is
> that every adult should have the right to end their life when they choose
> -- even if they're not terminally ill. This can be easily achieved by
> simply repealing all laws against suicide. (Yes, it might result in
> murderers trying to make their crimes look like suicide, but they already
> try that often enough, no?)
>
> Regards,
>
> Dan
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